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Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

fibre-hobo — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:27:59 GMT

Hi all, I've looked and other than finding independents that are not operating in my area, I can't find anything.

OpenReach FTTP via BT does exist here, does anyone know if OpenReach generally unbundle/offer their FTTP service to partner companies at the moment, Sept 2021 ?

Thanks, Joe

Re: Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

Carlusha — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:02:17 GMT

https://availability.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker

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licquorice — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:07:19 GMT

@fibre-hobo wrote:

OpenReach FTTP via BT does exist here, does anyone know if OpenReach generally unbundle/offer their FTTP service to partner companies at the moment, Sept 2021 ?

Openreach FTTP is available to any company that wishes to use it. Unfortunately, many choose not to.

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iniltous — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:14:22 GMT

Not sure you understand the way the regulator mandates the way this industry operates, Openreach is a wholesaler , it doesn’t have a retail division, it’s entire ‘business’ is building network and offering equal access to it to any retailer that wants to use it , who then offer services to consumers , BT is one of many companies that use OR ( in fact BT is the only company that if it wanted to build a competing network to OR,would not be allowed to do so ) every other service provider could do that and many do, in that they use OR in some places and have their own network in other places .
So , if OR FTTP doesn’t exist where you are , in what way can they then ‘offer’ FTTP services to ‘partner’ company’s in your area ?, it’s a bit nonsensical.
If your area is served by OR ( at some point in the future ) then you get to chose one of the many providers that use OR, if an alternative network provider serves your area , you can use them ( almost certainly tied to that company with little or no choice ) …that’s it

Re: Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

fibre-hobo — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 12:16:41 GMT

@Carlushawrote:
https://availability.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker

Thanks, I'd not found this way of checking but it confirms what I've found. Not happening here at the moment.

Re: Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

fibre-hobo — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 12:18:01 GMT

@iniltouswrote:
Not sure you understand the way the regulator mandates the way this industry operates, Openreach is a wholesaler , it doesn’t have a retail division, it’s entire ‘business’ is building network and offering equal access to it to any retailer that wants to use it , who then offer services to consumers , BT is one of many companies that use OR ( in fact BT is the only company that if it wanted to build a competing network to OR,would not be allowed to do so ) every other service provider could do that and many do, in that they use OR in some places and have their own network in other places .
So , if OR FTTP doesn’t exist where you are , in what way can they then ‘offer’ FTTP services to ‘partner’ company’s in your area ?, it’s a bit nonsensical.
If your area is served by OR ( at some point in the future ) then you get to chose one of the many providers that use OR, if an alternative network provider serves your area , you can use them ( almost certainly tied to that company with little or no choice ) …that’s it

lol a wrong assumption so presumably you didn't read the question that was asked and you were condescending at the same time 😆

Re: Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

Starwire — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:29:36 GMT

There are quite a number of ISP’s that sell FTTP on the Openreach Network.

Some are specific to certain geographical areas.

Some may also sell it in some areas but not others due to capacity on their Backhaul Network so you may find your mate on Exchange A can have it from a particular ISP but you on Exchange B a few miles down the road can’t at time minute with that same ISP.

Re: Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

iniltous — Sun, 19 Sep 2021 08:12:40 GMT

If Openreach FTTP is available but you don’t want to use BT, and you want information regarding BT competitors, asking on a BT forum is odd, if others ISP’s you may want to use don’t offer service , even though OR FTTP is available ,given they could do so if they wanted , I would suggest you ask them why they don’t.

Re: Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

fibre-hobo — Sun, 10 Oct 2021 09:19:22 GMT

Answering my own original question, this is the best answer:

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttp-providers

Re: Service providers offering OpenReach FTTP other than BT

pippincp — Sun, 10 Oct 2021 09:29:03 GMT

@fibre-hobo which was answered for you by @Starwire @iniltous & @licquorice in the first place.

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fibre-hobo — Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:23:58 GMT

thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread @pippincp

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gspearson — Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:03:00 GMT

I'm interested in the inverse, keeping my BT Service but on the only fibre here - CityFibre. That's not going to happem?