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Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Barisax18 — Mon, 06 Jul 2020 13:58:19 GMT

I have just placed an order for Full Fibre 900 and I am concerned to ensure that the ONT & Hub end up in a place that is practical for me. I have been told that it is a two-stage process, and that I do not need to be at home for the first engineer visit (estimated for next Tuesday, 14th) when I understand that the engineer will run a cable from the (underground) cabling in the street to my house wall and install a box (which I believe is called a customer splice point?).

My concern is that if I am not at home he/she may install the CSP where the current telephone wire enters the property, which is not near a mains socket and from where it would be impossible for the second engineer to run internal cabling to a suitable position for the ONT without drilling through walls. I have equipment that must have an ethernet connection to the Hub so it is essential the ONT is somewhere suitable.

If I cannot catch the engineer and influence the location of the CSP, can the extension cable from the CSP to the ONT be run externally? This would be a relatively short run of a few metres, though it would involve a couple of 90-degree bends.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

pippincp — Mon, 06 Jul 2020 14:43:19 GMT

@Starwireis the man to answer this for you. Hopefully he will drop in later.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Barisax18 — Mon, 06 Jul 2020 16:30:40 GMT

Thanks, pippincp.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Starwire — Mon, 06 Jul 2020 17:49:32 GMT

The CSP goes by the Cable Entry Point as standard. The EZ Bend Cable that connects to that to the ONT Location comes in pre made lengths of 5, 10, 20, 30 and 50m so unless you live in a Castle I can’t see it being a problem.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Barisax18 — Mon, 06 Jul 2020 18:17:46 GMT

Can the EZ Bend Cable be run externally to where I would want the ONT? This would be a simple run, whereas running it internally would be extremely problematic as there are many obstacles in the way.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Starwire — Mon, 06 Jul 2020 18:26:32 GMT

Yes, it can be run externally and internally.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Sat, 19 Dec 2020 21:00:52 GMT

Can u tell me more about this bt just sent me a video about this and bit up in air how this work for me. Our master socket is in living room which is at back of house master socket cabling ran outside before conservatory build so wiring is hiding then runs outside along side of house to the front where it meets high rise wiring. So how would drilling work ? I thought just done summit with master socket. Thanks

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

pippincp — Sat, 19 Dec 2020 21:30:51 GMT

Doesn't matter where your master socket is as FTTP doesn't make use of it.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:44:18 GMT

Eh ? So I don’t need a master socket confused now

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

pippincp — Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:55:04 GMT

Your master socket will be used for telephone only unless you are in an area being upgraded to Digital Voice then it will become redundant.

The fibre cable will be run directly to an ONT which the hub will connect to. Decide and discuss with the install engineer where you want the ONT to be sited (pic below)

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 00:00:50 GMT

Thanks. Yes I am upgrading to digital voice. So I have overhead lines not underground so all that will be redundant ? So router to box external then new line to where ?

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 00:09:39 GMT

Should I have upgraded digital voice when I don’t even use household phones ? Just seemed free phones but now seems I have complicated things

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

pippincp — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 00:41:12 GMT

@Klrwrote:
Thanks. Yes I am upgrading to digital voice. So I have overhead lines not underground so all that will be redundant ? So router to box external then new line to where ?

The copper line will be redundant. A new fibre optic overhead will be run to where you decide you wish the ONT to be sited internally. The install engineer will discuss this with you.

As regards DV if you don't use the phones it doesn't matter there is no difference in price. The hub is a dect base station which the phones connect wirelessly to.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 00:48:42 GMT

Thanks very much. The video sent was gonna give me nightmares. Thanks u.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:12:01 GMT

Tomorrow is the day will engineer take master socket out then if it’s going to be redundant ?

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

pippincp — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:27:07 GMT

Not usually but I suppose you can ask. He's just there to install the ONT.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:40:00 GMT

Thanks. So the master socket is behind a settee is it worth moving the settee if it’s not being touched. The video shows that I got sent shows they have to do summit with the master socket

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

ch — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 22:00:01 GMT

They don't.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

Klr — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 22:53:06 GMT

Never even touched the master socket didn’t need 2. New wiring installed internal box from 1st floor room then wiring down to ground external box. Wiring from master socket box side of house which it had already been then both wiring full fibre abs copper cabling hooked up to external box then connected up overhead line.

Re: Cabling for Full Fibre Installation

bwlmog — Sat, 24 Apr 2021 09:09:12 GMT

With a Full Fibre install, can this be installed anywhere in the house of does it have to enter the property at the point closest the road. Ideally, I'd want it going into my home office which is at the rear of the house and on the first floor.

Thanks in advance