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FTTP installation of ONC question

Wilted007 — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:38:45 GMT

I'm thinking of getting FTTP (currently on 76Mbps fttc).

My concern is the placement of the new equipment within my home. My current phone line, socket and router is located in the entrance hallway and served by an underground copper cable.

Ideally I would like the new equipment installed into my living room behind/beside my TV as this is the entertainment hub of my home and would prefer hard wired connections.

Where will they enter my house with the new cable?

Is it possible to get it fed under floors to the location I would like?

Would I be better putting it in a cupboard and trying to run cables back to there instead?

If so would the meter board or gas boiler interfere with the WiFi signal from it?

Thanks for any help.

Re: FTTP installation of ONC question

licquorice — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:01:55 GMT

@Wilted007 wrote:

I'm thinking of getting FTTP (currently on 76Mbps fttc).

My concern is the placement of the new equipment within my home. My current phone line, socket and router is located in the entrance hallway and served by an underground copper cable.

Ideally I would like the new equipment installed into my living room behind/beside my TV as this is the entertainment hub of my home and would prefer hard wired connections.

Where will they enter my house with the new cable?

Probably the same location as the copper does.

Is it possible to get it fed under floors to the location I would like?

Very unlikely

Would I be better putting it in a cupboard and trying to run cables back to there instead?

Yes

If so would the meter board or gas boiler interfere with the WiFi signal from it?

Not directly, but the wifi signal probably won't be very effective to the rest of the house. You could always add a wireless access point in the living room if you intend running a cable anyway.

Thanks for any help.

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Starwire — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:07:39 GMT

Not allowed to put any kind of cabling under carpets or floor boards.

Why can’t it be run externally, do you live in a mid terrace or something?

Re: FTTP installation of ONC question

Wilted007 — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 17:22:30 GMT

I live in a semi detached house. The living room wall with TV is in the middle of the house.

Coming into the living room from an external wall would be okay also and cabling internally around skirting board but that's no where near where the underground copper cable enters the house.

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pippincp — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 17:25:48 GMT

Should still be OK to take it along the outside and enter through the living room external wall. Discuss with the install engineer. There try to be helpful.

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Starwire — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 17:43:53 GMT

As Pippincp said what until the Installation Engineer arrives and speak to him of her.

Most are accommodating and will put the ONT where you’d like.

They’ll also do what’s easier for them, i.e. the other day an EU was under the assumption the ONT would have to go by the existing NTE in the middle of the hallway. To get the EZ Bend Fibre to there would’ve meant drilling out where there was less than an inch clearance between one of those cheap UPVC Door Frames and an external wall.

It was noticed that in the guys living room he had the usual smart telly, Sky, games boxes, etc. To get the EZ Bend Cable there meant a nice clear 10m run along an external wall. It was kindly suggested the ONT and Router go there as Smart TV’s work better with a Wired Connection than a Wireless one.

Guy was chuffed to bits and thought he was being done a massive favour when in reality it was what was best for the Installation Engineer.

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Wilted007 — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 18:25:16 GMT

If my current copper cable comes up from under the wooden floor into my hallway, how would they get the fibre optic to come up the outside of the house? So it could be run around it to the outside of my living room.

Also is the new ONT the smaller version I've seen without the battery?

Thanks for all the replies by the way.

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pippincp — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 18:27:17 GMT

Let the install engineer worry about that. The smaller ONT is the one in use now.

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Starwire — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:14:12 GMT

Do you live in Northern Ireland?

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Wilted007 — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:27:12 GMT

I've a HH4, will I get a new HH?

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Wilted007 — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:28:51 GMT

Yes. Northern Ireland

Re: FTTP installation of ONC question

licquorice — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:36:42 GMT

@Wilted007 wrote:

I've a HH4, will I get a new HH?

Yes

Re: FTTP installation of ONC question

david39ni — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 21:16:45 GMT

Im getting mine installed in the morning can let you no my experience but then I am from Belfast most engineers are very accommodating here and our cables dont come from the lamp posts for Fiber their underground here so I will reply back to your thread in the morning if you want.

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Wilted007 — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 21:25:38 GMT

That'd be great. Thanks.

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david39ni — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 21:37:01 GMT

I work for the NHS as a software dev here so I need mine beside the computer for the lan connection might be unique case their.
Its not the business lines im getting just the consumer for it helps with remote desktop sessions.

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Starwire — Thu, 30 Jul 2020 06:16:52 GMT

Northern Ireland, right OK. Should’ve said. Completely different setup over there.

Never been but I’ve heard all phone lines come direct into the house like that, not sure why?

I’ve seen pics of some FTTP Installs in NI and the CSP was put inside the house at the Entry Point.

As said, speak to the Engineer when he/she arrives and I’m sure they’ll come to some kind of work around.

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david39ni — Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:46:42 GMT

As usual no phone call yet they normally used to ring first thing to arrange the time the appointments between 8 am and 1pm so will advise u later if they turn up. I dont know what there policy these days with the virus is if its raining or bad weather do they call it off in case their workers get sick?.

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david39ni — Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:24:26 GMT

So they just showed up and said that they didn't have the full live order for the system. So they claimed even though its on BT internal Hud system which gets passed to open reach, but the two lads where admit it wouldnt be finished today.

But on the plus side on my side they couldn't pull the coper wire down, so they have to go thorugh where i want it which is a bonus but by the looks of it if u havent had ur survey yet dont count on them having i finished for the same day.

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Wilted007 — Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:33:27 GMT

Just ordered and told 4th September was first date for install.

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david39ni — Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:36:01 GMT

Tell them u need a survey first the open reach guys are top notch though cant fault them its just Bts poor communication between the two, they need to be able to no if the need to dig up you drive way etc

https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/N-Ireland-Install-Horror-but-a-good-ending-and-2-top-noch-open/td-p/2077084