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ONT replacement

Snoozer — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:25:47 GMT

Hello,

Recently upgraded to 900+mb full fibre from 300mb Full Fibre.

My personal router has an SFP 10g connector and would like to utilise this, i have seen that BT are rolling out 10g Nokia ONT's on new builds, and i am not fond of using the Hawaii 1G ONT within my home, are we able to get a replacement upon request? or replace it ourselves somehow?

Re: ONT replacement

imjolly — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:39:21 GMT

unless the ONT is faulty I cannot see BT/openreach agreeing to replace it and certainly you can't replace it yourself

Re: ONT replacement

Snoozer — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:41:14 GMT

Disgrace

Re: ONT replacement

licquorice — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:01:56 GMT

You still wouldn't be able to use your 10G SFP with the Nokia as the interface to your router WAN is copper Ethernet not fibre.

Re: ONT replacement

Snoozer — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:42:07 GMT

I can use sfp to ethernet 10g adapter easily.

Re: ONT replacement

licquorice — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 14:15:16 GMT

Hmm, that's a good idea, convert an electrical signal to an optical signal for about 6" and then back to electrical again.

You can't use a Nokia ONT with an Huawei OLT anyway.

Re: ONT replacement

Snoozer — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 14:37:42 GMT

Don't message if you want to post drivel.

Re: ONT replacement

licquorice — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 14:46:55 GMT

Please explain which part of my post is drivel.

Re: ONT replacement

busterboy1 — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:31:18 GMT

@licquorice posted

You can't use a Nokia ONT with an Huawei OLT anyway.

Which is FACT.!!

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@Snoozer

You need to brush up on FACT'S before you post anymore drivel.

Re: ONT replacement

Starwire — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:19:57 GMT

ONT’s aren’t interchangeable like they were on FTTC. I’m afraid if if you’re on an ECI Head End then you can’t use a Nokia ONT or vice versa.

They are bringing out a new Huawei ONT that is about the same size of the Nokia but the Technology inside is still Huawei. The only reason for changing the Huawei ONT is to remove the TELE1 Port as Openreach are soon to get rid of the FVA Service.

Re: ONT replacement

converse420 — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:43:50 GMT

This is a very Trumpian remark, whilst I too would like other options, I purchased an FTTP service from BT which was delivered exactly as advertised. I could have bought the same service from Zen or others, but the underlying service provided by Openreach would be the same. In both of these cases the service is driven by the market, demand and volume. I would not like to speculate what tiny percentage of customers would have needs matching yours, so to call this a disgrace seems to be beyond egregious on your part!.

Re: ONT replacement

iniltous — Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:57:54 GMT

If you bought a Sky TV service, then you are tied to their kit, nowhere is it implied or suggested that you can use your own equipment , similarly, if you purchase a service based on OR’s FTTP , then the service bought includes the network termination point , (or optical network termination point) so (obviously) that isn’t yours to interfere with, if you want to change out the ‘router’, and your ISP is happy for you to do that, then that’s OK, but the ONT isn’t yours or the ISP’s, and given that , your opinion of that supposed lack of flexibility is moot, it’s part of the service you subscribed to, if it isn’t what you want, then you could pay the ETC and leave, but to claim it’s disgraceful that you cannot dictate that they change it to something your would prefer is nonsense.

Re: ONT replacement

j0hn83 — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 04:16:16 GMT

The current Nokia ONT's aren't 10Gb either.
They are GPON ONT's with a single 1 Gb Ethernet port.

OpenReach are supplying the Nokia 7368 ISAM ONU G-010G-Q

https://wdcnet.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Nokia_7368_ISAM_ONU_G-010G-Q_Data_Sheet_EN.pdf

As mentioned if you currently have a Huawei ONT then OpenReach won't install a
Nokia ONT.
The ONT Vendor must match the OLT Vendor in the exchange.

This isn't strictly necessary with GPON but OpenReach would lose access to vital telemetry if they mixed vendors ONT/OLT's, so they don't.
It's actually configured not to work, with many examples of engineers bringing the wrong make of ONT only to find it won't work.

Re: ONT replacement

1550 — Sat, 06 Mar 2021 13:58:50 GMT

@licquorice
This bit.

"Hmm, that's a good idea, convert an electrical signal to an optical signal for about 6" and then back to electrical again"

There are no optics involved in a copper SFP+ module and the link from that to the Nokia interface would be copper.

Re: ONT replacement

Gary_C — Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:19:03 GMT

Snappy comeback 🙂

Anyway, you can't use your SFP+ connector whatever type of media channel you wish to use as the ONT is not going to be changed anytime soon.
It would seem to be a bit of overkill to run a 10gbps from a 1gps optical even if you could replace the ONT.