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PPPOE

Jaysnp101 — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:10:15 GMT

Hi, im looking to set up a PPPOE connection on my playstion but every time I test connection it is unable to obtain ip address.

My connection is vdsl fftc, using bt smart hub 2 so I'm just needing to know if I can set up this way or not?

And If I can what am I doing wrong , if not then why?

Thanks in advance and sorry if it sounds kinda stupid haha.

Re: PPPOE

pippincp — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:36:52 GMT

The hub negotiates the PPPoE connection so no, you can't set it up via your playstation.

Re: PPPOE

Jaysnp101 — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:48:28 GMT

So would I need a third party router to connect to playstion via pppoe?

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licquorice — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:59:55 GMT

No, you don't need a PPPoE connection on your playstation. Just connect it via Ethernet to your hub.

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Jaysnp101 — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:33:05 GMT

I understand I dont NEED a pppoe connection on the playstation but thats how I want to do it. So how can I implement this? 3rd party router? Enable full cone nat, there must be some way.

Re: PPPOE

licquorice — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:39:18 GMT

I have no idea why you would want to, however, in order to do so you would need to connect the playstation directly via a modem rather than a router.

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pippincp — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:39:55 GMT

A standalone VDSL modem would allow you to do it but you wouldn't be able to connect any other device, only the play station.

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Jaysnp101 — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:42:33 GMT

Thanks, your help is very much appreciated.

Re: PPPOE

Jaysnp101 — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 01:53:25 GMT

Ok, so I set up my tp link router td w9970 I believe it is.

I reconfigured the setting on it so it was on bridge mode? Is this correct?

Although the router did say it was connected via pppoe anyway but don't know how to transfer this over to the playstation.

Anyway, put it in bridge mode and tried to connect playstation via pppoe and it still wouldn't get an ip address.

Please help, cant understand what I'm doing wrong.

Thank again for your help.

Re: PPPOE

Keith_Beddoe — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 08:49:06 GMT

Its modem mode you want. That is possible on that device, on an FTTC connection only. You are correct that it says bridge mode. PPPoE authentication would have to be done on the Playstation, if that is possible, although I am not sure why you would want to do it that way. It would be issued with a public IP address, and would be open to the Internet.

See https://www.tp-link.com/uk/support/faq/1332/

Make sure you use the correct PPPoE authentication on the Playstation, otherwise you will not get an Internet connection, only the BT Wholesale holding page.

Re: PPPOE

Jaysnp101 — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 08:57:44 GMT

Once in bridge mode im kinda stuck.

I have the options on playstation for wired, WiFi, and pppoe but clicking on pppoe never gets a connection and fails to get ip address.

On the router the UI is a little different to mine, I need to set it up as normal using pppoe connection then on the wan interface I set up a new connection in bridge mode.

Do I then delete the original pppoe connection.

Sorry if this is confusing.

Re: PPPOE

Keith_Beddoe — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 09:11:14 GMT

I cannot really help with this, as I would not expect you to setup PPoE on the TP Link at all, so if the instructions on the TP link page I posted, do not help, then you may have to email TP Link to see what the settings are for your firmware version.

Re: PPPOE

licquorice — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 09:26:53 GMT

Have a look at this thread, it is for the 9980 but should be similar.

You need to configure the VLANid of 101 on the TP Link but not PPPoE.

Re: PPPOE

licquorice — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:21:38 GMT

See screenshots below from emulator for steps to take.

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Jaysnp101 — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:06:49 GMT

Thank you for these answers, I will try to set it up when I get home tonight and let you know how I get on.

I have just disabled bt web protect, is there any chance this could have an effect on consoles?

So when I click on connection type do I click on "other" then "bridge" then vlan id 101.

Thanks again

Re: PPPOE

licquorice — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:27:23 GMT

@Jaysnp101 wrote:

Thank you for these answers, I will try to set it up when I get home tonight and let you know how I get on.

I have just disabled bt web protect, is there any chance this could have an effect on consoles?

It would prevent access to some websites but it wouldn't prevent you getting connected

So when I click on connection type do I click on "other" then "bridge" then vlan id 101.

Yes, 'other' is at the bottom of the list of ISPs.

Thanks again

Just to make sure you are entering the correct PPPoE details on the Playstation, they are username bthomehub@btbroadband.com and password BT

Re: PPPOE

Jaysnp101 — Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:12:20 GMT

Right, long story short I managed to get pppoe to work by setting up bridge connection on router/modem.

Obviously this isn't practical for a long term solution to get an open nat on playstation. I know many say nat type 2 (moderate) is open and I agree but trust me things feels alot better when on open nat.

Is there any way possible while on fttc using other equipment I can get an open nat while also having access to WiFi?

There must be a way as I've seen loads of people gaming with nat type 1 and still have their router up and running.

Thanks 😊

Re: PPPOE

Jaysnp101 — Thu, 10 Dec 2020 19:29:51 GMT

Anyone any idea?