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Adding gaming router

L3 — Wed, 05 May 2021 12:19:46 GMT

Hi guys.

I've got me self a gaming router for ps5.

How's the best way to connect the gaming router to my tp link 9880 or smart hub 2.

What is the better modem/router to connect gaming router to the tp link 9980 or hub?.

I've reading up online posts about putting a dmz on tp link or hub and putting the wan IP of the gaming router into that DMZ.

And something about a bridge not sure what that is.

What's your thoughts?.

Thank you for your time

Re: Adding gaming router

licquorice — Wed, 05 May 2021 13:42:51 GMT

I love the marketing boys with their 'gaming router' as if it is any different to any other router.

However, if it is just a router rather than a modem/router and you have FTTC, your best bet is to use a separate modem such as the Huawei HG 612 from eBay.

If you have FTTP, you can connect it directly to the ONT. If you have G.Fast, your modem options are very limited.

Re: Adding gaming router

TimCurtis — Wed, 05 May 2021 14:46:53 GMT

@L3

I'm pretty sure that if you succeed in connecting it to your TP-Link or SmartHub you'll gain nothing anyway as the router won't be handling your internet traffic.

If you do as @licquorice says then maybe you'll gain something but I wouldn't bank on it.

Re: Adding gaming router

L3 — Wed, 05 May 2021 15:07:18 GMT

I got myself a nighthawk xr500 gaming router. Can I plug it straight back in tp link 9980 or SH2 and I'm good to go, or does the xr500 need to go into a DMZ on the tp or sh2 or a bridge mode whatever that is.

Re: Adding gaming router

licquorice — Wed, 05 May 2021 15:20:08 GMT

You are totally wasting your time and money by connecting 2 routers together, but if you really must, don't use the SH2 as it doesn't have a bridge mode and you will be double natting. Use the 9980 and put it in bridge mode.

Re: Adding gaming router

L3 — Wed, 05 May 2021 15:46:08 GMT

What's difference between bridge mode over DMZ? I have fttc infinity 1.

I do have moderate nat on cod as before was open.

Have I caused issues in linking the 2 together and wasted time and money. I disabled the WiFi on the tp link as the smartphones and WiFi devices kept picking up both routers.

Re: Adding gaming router

licquorice — Wed, 05 May 2021 15:53:15 GMT

In bridge mode the 9980 will be acting just as a modem, if you put the Netgear in the DMZ, the 9980 will still be routing and natting and you will therefore be double natting.

If you wanted a fancy router, you would have been better buying a combined modem/router rather than bodging 2 routers together.

Re: Adding gaming router

L3 — Wed, 05 May 2021 16:42:25 GMT

The tp link 9980 has bridge mode in wan and DMZ feature.
Didn't know to put a DMZ in tp link and connect the xr500 to it or do a bridge mode in tp link and connect xr500 to it. Thought I ask u guys as your good on here.
Think I could be getting double NAT now as cod saying moderate NAT.

Buying a fancy modem/router combo I wouldn't got the fancy features.

Re: Adding gaming router

licquorice — Wed, 05 May 2021 16:46:20 GMT

Put the TP Link in bridge mode.

Re: Adding gaming router

L3 — Tue, 25 May 2021 13:13:21 GMT

Is there any difference between tp link to xr router, or sh2 to xr router and as advised a hg612 and xr router?.

Tp link doesn't have bridge mode only bridge wan.

I've got my xr connected to my tp link at mo and I've put the XR IP in my tp link in a dmz.

Also I did a connection benchmark on xr router and ping underload download was 110ms and up 85ms. Seems high

Thanks guys

Re: Adding gaming router

Stu_H — Fri, 28 May 2021 06:07:46 GMT

Are you using the latest 3.0 beta firmware on the XR?

if so the built in bufferbloat test is still being worked on so I would recommend you use PingPlotter to set up the congestion control.

I take it you have disabled the WiFi on the tp link if you have the XR in the DMZ?

The XR series of routers needs to control all your devices or else CC is not going to work well.

If you want to try a modem only you can find a few old HG612s out there as well as a few from vigor and Zyxel do one but not all are equal so just be aware they may impact on your connection rates.
moderate Nat is showing you are behind a firewall, there’s a couple of things to try like the open NAT option or port forwarding. Saying that moderate will not effect your latency and it’s just effects who you can join which I’m guessing you play COD.

Re: Adding gaming router

L3 — Fri, 28 May 2021 13:02:29 GMT

Yes using the 3.0 on the xr. The ping underload is still high and it is being worked on. I have switched off the WiFi on the tp link little switch on back.

On the tp link i put the wan IP of the xr into DMZ on tp to avoid double natting, Everything is now connected to the xr, the only thing connected to tp is the xr with ethernet. Yeah cod showing moderate and other games are jerking and stuttering.

As the connection is banded again I thought about trying the hg612 as my cabinet is Huawei and I think the chipset and cabinet go together, where my tp is lantiq I think.

Thanks guys

Re: Adding gaming router

Stu_H — Fri, 28 May 2021 13:14:56 GMT

I use the HG612 and I’ve tried the Vigors including the 166 which hammered my connection.

If you get stuck search out Netdumas forum as that’s the best place for help, in fact support from Netduma is second to none unlike many others. If you add a @Newfie I’ll pick up the post in my alerts too.

Re: Adding gaming router

licquorice — Fri, 28 May 2021 13:21:26 GMT

Putting a device in a DMZ doesn't avoid double natting, it avoids double port forwarding.

Re: Adding gaming router

L3 — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:07:29 GMT

Hi guys

As recommended on here I ordered a hg612 as I have a tp link to xr at mo.

Any ideas how to set up hg612 I connected it to a pc on Lan 2 and type the IP address to try it and look at the interface and I'm getting nothing.

I've also pushed the white button in to reset it.

I know the rj11 not connected but should still be able browse the interface from lan2 to pc.

Cheers guys

Re: Adding gaming router

licquorice — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:15:37 GMT

Unless it is unlocked, you cannot access it. There is nothing to configure, it is just plug and play with BT VDSL.

Re: Adding gaming router

L3 — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:22:09 GMT

How do u see your line stats sync rate, max Rate, snr, line att. Any errors.

Even with hub u see that.

Re: Adding gaming router

licquorice — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 13:04:43 GMT

You will need to unlock it if you wish to see line stats. It is a fairly trivial procedure. https://kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612hacking.htm

Use the GUI firmware

Link to firmware is on this page https://kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612unlock.htm