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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/297659"&gt;@olditsecguy&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When you tell a non-technical customers that they are going to upgrade to Fibre, but you can do this through their existing copper cable ..... customer's are impressed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Those in the industry know that really calling something Fibre and then providing the last length over copper is really misleading to the non-technical customers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;You're a bit late to the party, this has been the case with all suppliers for years. Blame Ofcom/Advertising Standards Agency who allowed it to happen.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you then go to register my interest in full fibre optic to be told great news you can already get Fibre in your area is I feel a little dishonest.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;As above&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know their is fibre optic in the area as I had it and was tided into BT for over five years as they paid for the install on a new estate. But to now have moved closer to the exchange, with no way of telling when I can get true Fibre broadband I feel is dishonest, and I must again seek alternative providers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;All I ask is for two things.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Be honest when naming your packages for non technical customers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;I assume you have posted this to every ISP as it is standard industry practice to cal FTTC fibre broadband.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Please allow your existing customers to at least have some idea when they can get access to actual Fibre Broadband.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;That is nothing to do with BT, it is in the hands of Openreach.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:12:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>licquorice</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-12-28T11:12:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Missdirection? Over calling a package Fibre to non technical customers</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/Archive-Staging/Missdirection-Over-calling-a-package-Fibre-to-non-technical/m-p/2202911#M1260516</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When you tell a non-technical customers that they are going to upgrade to Fibre, but you can do this through their existing copper cable ..... customer's are impressed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Those in the industry know that really calling something Fibre and then providing the last length over copper is really misleading to the non-technical customers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you then go to register my interest in full fibre optic to be told great news you can already get Fibre in your area is I feel a little dishonest.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know their is fibre optic in the area as I had it and was tided into BT for over five years as they paid for the install on a new estate. But to now have moved closer to the exchange, with no way of telling when I can get true Fibre broadband I feel is dishonest, and I must again seek alternative providers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All I ask is for two things.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Be honest when naming your packages for non technical customers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Please allow your existing customers to at least have some idea when they can get access to actual Fibre Broadband.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2021 00:37:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/Archive-Staging/Missdirection-Over-calling-a-package-Fibre-to-non-technical/m-p/2202911#M1260516</guid>
      <dc:creator>olditsecguy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-28T00:37:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Missdirection? Over calling a package Fibre to non technical customers</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/Archive-Staging/Missdirection-Over-calling-a-package-Fibre-to-non-technical/m-p/2202914#M1260517</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/297659"&gt;@olditsecguy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is just a&lt;STRONG&gt; customer to customer&lt;/STRONG&gt; help forum, everyone here, including myself, are just customers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The only BT Employees are the forum moderators.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2021 06:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/Archive-Staging/Missdirection-Over-calling-a-package-Fibre-to-non-technical/m-p/2202914#M1260517</guid>
      <dc:creator>Keith_Beddoe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-28T06:38:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Missdirection? Over calling a package Fibre to non technical customers</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/Archive-Staging/Missdirection-Over-calling-a-package-Fibre-to-non-technical/m-p/2202956#M1260518</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/297659"&gt;@olditsecguy&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you for posting.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you take a look at the&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL" target="_self"&gt;Broadband Availability Checker&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;it will give you a full breakdown of what services are available to order at your address.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you take a look at Openreach&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband" target="_self"&gt;When and Where&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;it will give you an indication of if your property is included in the current roll-out plans and when you might be able to get the service.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Paddy&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:03:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PaddyB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-28T11:03:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Missdirection? Over calling a package Fibre to non technical customers</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/Archive-Staging/Missdirection-Over-calling-a-package-Fibre-to-non-technical/m-p/2202960#M1260519</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/297659"&gt;@olditsecguy&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When you tell a non-technical customers that they are going to upgrade to Fibre, but you can do this through their existing copper cable ..... customer's are impressed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Those in the industry know that really calling something Fibre and then providing the last length over copper is really misleading to the non-technical customers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;You're a bit late to the party, this has been the case with all suppliers for years. Blame Ofcom/Advertising Standards Agency who allowed it to happen.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you then go to register my interest in full fibre optic to be told great news you can already get Fibre in your area is I feel a little dishonest.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;As above&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know their is fibre optic in the area as I had it and was tided into BT for over five years as they paid for the install on a new estate. But to now have moved closer to the exchange, with no way of telling when I can get true Fibre broadband I feel is dishonest, and I must again seek alternative providers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;All I ask is for two things.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Be honest when naming your packages for non technical customers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;I assume you have posted this to every ISP as it is standard industry practice to cal FTTC fibre broadband.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Please allow your existing customers to at least have some idea when they can get access to actual Fibre Broadband.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;That is nothing to do with BT, it is in the hands of Openreach.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:12:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/Archive-Staging/Missdirection-Over-calling-a-package-Fibre-to-non-technical/m-p/2202960#M1260519</guid>
      <dc:creator>licquorice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-28T11:12:23Z</dc:date>
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