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Question about ONT's

Okaydan — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:12:55 GMT

Hi, I've been doing some research ready for when FTTP is finally available in my area and would love to ask a few of you a couple questions i can't seem to find the answer to on google.

1) When getting a ONT installed is it possible to choose how many ports? e.g a 4 port ?

2) Can a multi port ONT can assign more than one ISP ? i think like port 1 is BT for example and idk port 2 is a different provider for example?

Sorry for asking probably insanely easy to find questions but i'm just extremely curious, As i would like to have a FTTP connection for myself and another FTTP connect for the rest of my family.

Thank you very much for taking the time to help!

Re: Question about ONT's

licquorice — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:53:07 GMT

In theory, it is possible to have multiple providers via a multi port ONT. However, how easy that is in practice is a moot point.

There are certainly people that have posted on the Kitz forum that they have more than one provider via a multi port ONT.

Re: Question about ONT's

iniltous — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 16:21:26 GMT

I think you would find if on the wholesale checker if it says a single port ONT can be ordered, that is what will be fitted, if at some point you can get an ISP to order a second service without mistakenly taking over the existing service, then ( provided the order is raised correctly ) then the single port ONT should be replaced with a four port one, but simply requesting the tech fits a four port one will not be successful.
Port numbers are not assigned to ISP’s , whoever the first service is with will be on port one, the second on port two etc, that is if you can get two services ordered, as already advised, this may be easier said than done .

Re: Question about ONT's

Okaydan — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 17:09:26 GMT

First off, Thank you both for the information / help!

Just brainstorming a few things before i get it to be available in my area, Hopefully it's possible to get the four port ONT at my address, Thanks for the help you guys 🙂

Re: Question about ONT's

pippincp — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 19:58:27 GMT

What is the reason for you wanting a 4 port ONT?

Re: Question about ONT's

Okaydan — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 19:59:54 GMT

having two FTTP ISP's at the same address and as far as i know the one port ONT's can't do that right?

Re: Question about ONT's

licquorice — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:00:42 GMT

@pippincp See message 1

Re: Question about ONT's

pippincp — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:05:58 GMT

Seems pointless to me.

Re: Question about ONT's

licquorice — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:12:31 GMT

Must admit 900M should be far more than enough for one household, but hey ho!

Re: Question about ONT's

Okaydan — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:21:56 GMT

@pippincp Not pointless when people are downloading non stop lol

Re: Question about ONT's

iniltous — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 09:00:08 GMT

The total bandwidth of a PON is about 2.4Gb down and 1.2Gb up, generally although theoretically 32 customers can share a PON , it’s normally no higher than 30, so as a single circuit you are 1/30th of the PON, get another circuit you have 2/30th ( or 1/16 ) ….this is of the available bandwidth ( the connection you pay for is the connection rate , not throughput, ) , so it’s entirely possible that if you had two 900Mb connections but happened to be on a full or nearly full PON , with 27-28 other customers , some of which were intensive users, your throughput could be worse than a single user on a PON that had fewer other users , or were on a PON had no one making great demands on the available bandwidth.

IMHO , before worrying too much about getting two connections, you would be better advised to see how the first one performs

Re: Question about ONT's

Okaydan — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:32:24 GMT

@iniltous Interesting, Never fully understood what a PON actually did. When you say the total bandwidth of a PON is about 2.4GB does that mean actively using that amount of per second or something? So does that make FTTP less consistent than VDSL? as multiple 900Mbps connections on a single PON would theoretically use thousands of GB's of data? If so that kind of makes the whole 900Mbps package just a massive *BUT*?

Re: Question about ONT's

licquorice — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:42:56 GMT

ALL broadband is contended, it would not be economic if it wasn't.

For FTTP, as has already been stated, 30 customers share 2.5Gbs, it relies on the normally bursty nature of internet usage to provide a good service. With the advent of streaming services, internet usage is not so bursty though.

Re: Question about ONT's

Okaydan — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:52:25 GMT

Good to know, thanks for the information guys. 😊👍