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FTTP in a ~10 year old house: Any reasons OR WON'T give us a connection?

eth72419 — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:35:40 GMT

Hiya,

I would like to enquire about something. It's come to my attention that people just about 100m up the road (albeit on the main road) appear to have FTTP installed already. I've attached images of how the line is fed to the house:

- Ducting to our homes are assumed to be used because the house is only around 10 years old
- The Bushey Heath exchange has been marked down as 'green' in the map

48.5 mbps is us and FTTP is available up the road (and down the road). I have already:

- contacted Openreach about this

But this post is not about IF i'm getting FTTP. It's about what hinderances there are. What factors are there that openreach consider to evalulate a property for FTTP?

Thanks!

Re: FTTP in a ~10 year old house: Any reasons OR WON'T give us a connection?

iniltous — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 21:07:05 GMT

You are asking the wrong question, OR don’t evaluate a property for FTTP unless they order FTTPod from a ISP that offers it , where the build costs are borne by the person making the order and surrounding neighbours ( very near neighbours ) could benefit from the newly constructed network.

When it comes to retro build FTTP , it’s an area not a property that OR consider, and they create a ‘plan’ to pick up all the properties within that area , when an area is surveyed the build phase may not immediately be given the go ahead , it’s even possible when a build is undertaken, some properties are excluded even though they are within the build plan , if getting FTTP service to them proves to be a problem , and to service them would need significant construction ( new ducts etc ) they are simply excluded from the build .

Obviously there are some ‘PON’ areas ( passive optical network ) where the dwellings are so close together that one or two streets may be covered by a single PON , and the neighbouring streets possibly only a few metres away are outside of that PON , and other areas where the dwellings are so widely spaced that a PON covers hundreds of square metres , so without context a property 100m away from you that can get FTTP is relatively meaningless….

I’d suggest what’s probably the case with your address though , given that its a 10 year old property and presumably several other similar properties were built at the same time , you are not in the same PON area as those that can get FTTP , and will have to wait until your PON area is surveyed and built , or perhaps it’s already been surveyed but is waiting to be given the go ahead to be built , OR can’t build everything at once , and an existing PON nearby doesn’t necessarily improve the chances of your area being built sooner rather than later , if you enquire and OR say no immediate plans , that’s about it , unless you go down the (expensive) FTTPod route

Re: FTTP in a ~10 year old house: Any reasons OR WON'T give us a connection?

licquorice — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 20:44:37 GMT

Why do folks ask about Openreach questions on a BT forum? I wonder if they ask the same questions on other ISP forums that are served by Openreach.

Re: FTTP in a ~10 year old house: Any reasons OR WON'T give us a connection?

eth72419 — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 21:01:06 GMT

Big reason why is because people still associate OR with BT considering their past - me included. There is no centralized community to talk about openreach as a whole - which is why so many people like to talk about it (not just me) on the community

Re: FTTP in a ~10 year old house: Any reasons OR WON'T give us a connection?

eth72419 — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 21:01:46 GMT

A very much needed evaluation of the process - thank you!

Re: FTTP in a ~10 year old house: Any reasons OR WON'T give us a connection?

gg30340 — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 21:30:28 GMT

@eth72419 wrote:

Big reason why is because people still associate OR with BT considering their past - me included. There is no centralized community to talk about openreach as a whole - which is why so many people like to talk about it (not just me) on the community

Just to make you aware, BT retail have no more "clout" with Openreach than all the other providers that use the Openreach infrastructure.

https://www.hso.co.uk/blog/regulation/bt-openreach/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-btopenreach-split

See link about which other ISP use Openreach.

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttp-providers

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband

Re: FTTP in a ~10 year old house: Any reasons OR WON'T give us a connection?

eth72419 — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 22:34:56 GMT

Thank you so much. I was definitely aware of this (the change in their vans/branding LOL). Bye!