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    <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436267#M360873</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/315739"&gt;@Kodikid&lt;/a&gt;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;For the record..FFTP does indeed exist and is bloody brilliant&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Give in ! What's FFTP, then. G.Fast ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;BT G.Fast &amp;amp; MGfast, what's the availability and can you order it ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="Smart Hub 2" style="width: 100px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.bt.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/83512i7B1758403F9F73DB/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="SH2x100x0.15xinf.gif" alt="Smart Hub 2" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Smart Hub 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:36:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>COMPANY-PENSIONER</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-06-18T12:36:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436203#M360860</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;FWIW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I had a knock on my door, a BT Salesman, fully badged-up, selling BT Fibre Broadband. The problem, fibre has never been provided to the building.&lt;BR /&gt;I showed the guy the 'blue-pulling-in-rope' appearing from the end of the poly-duct, at the base of the outside wall. The same poly-duct that the FTTC cable appears and enters the building through a conservation-area door frame. That's as far as BT Fibre has ever got, outside wall, faded blue-rope, laying in the communal gardens. Everything BT in the internal-riser is FTTC, 20-pair Box Conn, only 12-pairs utilised.&lt;BR /&gt;I inquired as to the price of the non-existent fibre; as it turns out, half the price I'm currently contracted.&lt;BR /&gt;I excused myself, so the salesman could ponder his next move: he continued knocking on doors hawking fibre that doesn't exist. It amused me !&lt;BR /&gt;Today ended with a smile on my face. I just live for a good gaslighting.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;  When life throws up  quandary ¦ laugh at your own incredulity  &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;" style="width: 500px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.bt.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/85913i18517510367C8B1B/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="TCJ500-01x12x0.5.gif" alt="&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;  When life throws up  quandary ¦ laugh at your own incredulity  &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;  When life throws up  quandary ¦ laugh at your own incredulity  &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2025 18:24:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436203#M360860</guid>
      <dc:creator>COMPANY-PENSIONER</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-17T18:24:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436224#M360862</link>
      <description>Are you absolutely sure it was a BT salesman? AFAIK, BT have never done door to door selling and I haven't heard that they are starting this. I wonder if the salesman was from an AltNet impersonating someone from BT, or maybe a low-life trying to "case" your house? Did he show you any document confirming his BT employment?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2025 19:46:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436224#M360862</guid>
      <dc:creator>chrisjp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-17T19:46:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436228#M360863</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/235382"&gt;@chrisjp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have a read of this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.bt.com/t5/Bills-Packages/BT-door-to-door-sales-everything-you-need-to-know/m-p/2253851" target="_blank"&gt;https://community.bt.com/t5/Bills-Packages/BT-door-to-door-sales-everything-you-need-to-know/m-p/2253851&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2025 20:04:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436228#M360863</guid>
      <dc:creator>gg30340</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-17T20:04:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436233#M360864</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do you live in an MDU, aka Block of Flats.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If it is and there is no more than 15 Flats then it is normal for Openreach to build enough capacity for each flat to the nearest Splitter Node then as and when a resident orders FTTP it will evoke a, ‘Reactive Build’ Job for the Openreach MDU Team to build internally within the MDU.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2025 20:32:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436233#M360864</guid>
      <dc:creator>36ULW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-17T20:32:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436239#M360865</link>
      <description>Hmm, yes, I live &amp;amp; learn!&lt;BR /&gt;Personally, though, I'd treat BT/EE's door to door salesmen as unwanted as Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and people trying to sell brushes or clothes pegs.&lt;BR /&gt;Do BT really think they are going win friends and influence people by doing this?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:10:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436239#M360865</guid>
      <dc:creator>chrisjp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-17T22:10:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436247#M360866</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;FWIW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I did identify the BT Salesman, by scrutinising his ID Badge at length. As a BT Consumer, he couldn't do anything for me.&lt;BR /&gt;He did bang on about the Post Code Checker showing fibre. Full Fibre/Part Fibre ? It's not a perfect PCC world.&lt;BR /&gt;The building is FTTC and there are 12 properties reducing to 8 available for services; less than 15, then.&lt;BR /&gt;Conservation Area rules apply. No incoming ducts, no internal traywork, archaic multi services wooden riser.&lt;BR /&gt;The local PCP and adjacent BB furniture are 50meters 'los' away. The fading in the sun &amp;amp; rain, dormant 'blue-pulling-in-rope' hasn't far to go, if it's ever roused from it's slumbers.&lt;BR /&gt;Looking in my 'Available Networks' BT's popularity is in decline, a minority: a diminutive 3 of 16, EE 7 of 16, the remaining 6,&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;liquorice&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;allsorts; no, Bertie Bassett doesn't live here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Conclusion. An island of BT Part Fibre / FTTC in a burgeoning sea of other ISP's Full Fibre. Ho-hum !&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="Hotel , Motel , Holiday Inn" style="width: 90px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.bt.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/84882i124C4769E573CE49/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ex-BT500-V2-250msx10.gif" alt="Hotel , Motel , Holiday Inn" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Hotel , Motel , Holiday Inn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 08:08:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436247#M360866</guid>
      <dc:creator>COMPANY-PENSIONER</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-18T08:08:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436264#M360872</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;For the record..FFTP does indeed exist and is bloody brilliant&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 11:57:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436264#M360872</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kodikid</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-18T11:57:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436267#M360873</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/315739"&gt;@Kodikid&lt;/a&gt;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;For the record..FFTP does indeed exist and is bloody brilliant&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Give in ! What's FFTP, then. G.Fast ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;BT G.Fast &amp;amp; MGfast, what's the availability and can you order it ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="Smart Hub 2" style="width: 100px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.bt.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/83512i7B1758403F9F73DB/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="SH2x100x0.15xinf.gif" alt="Smart Hub 2" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Smart Hub 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:36:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436267#M360873</guid>
      <dc:creator>COMPANY-PENSIONER</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-18T12:36:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436269#M360874</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Presumably&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.bt.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/315739"&gt;@Kodikid&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;meant FTTP. Any body would think he is a septuagenarian given the number of times he gets things wrong.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As far as I am aware G.Fast is no longer an option with BT&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;See link&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/10/the-misery-of-diminishing-choice-in-g-fast-uk-broadband-areas.html" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/10/the-misery-of-diminishing-choice-in-g-fast-uk-broadband-areas.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 13:02:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436269#M360874</guid>
      <dc:creator>gg30340</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-18T13:02:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436270#M360875</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Actually I'm a Pisces &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":pisces:"&gt;♓&lt;/span&gt;️.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 13:14:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436270#M360875</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kodikid</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-18T13:14:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-Existent Fibre Broadband ?</title>
      <link>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436271#M360876</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have another word.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 14:58:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Non-Existent-Fibre-Broadband/m-p/2436271#M360876</guid>
      <dc:creator>licquorice</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-18T14:58:08Z</dc:date>
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