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Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

jonnyc55 — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 16:44:53 GMT

The science is not settled on wifi if you look properly beyond media/wikipedia. Why is the radiation still going on, wasting power with wifi off? It's very dubious unless there is a good reason for it.

Blindly doing this to people. My my. Yes, I will, spend money on a third party router...

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

WSH — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:01:17 GMT

…which will do exactly the same. All electronic devices will give off some radiation.

And, speaking as a scientist, the science is not settled on anything! That’s the whole point of science. Investigation not dogma.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

jonnyc55 — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:10:21 GMT

No this is high, the EMF meter shows a high RF reading near the router, my computer does not give off high RF noise or the monitor right up close. I wish that was the case. For example the router shows 47 mW/m2, where my computer near the motherboard whilst turned on shows 0.2000mW/m2. Sad, I bought ethernet adapters to rid radiation worries. Now I don't know if third party routers will even have no radiation with wifi off.

Well yes, the science is not settled, but people speak like it is settled... that's what I am saying.

Why are things either boringly dull and simple or a total swamp of issues.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

WSH — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:16:30 GMT

Well, if you’re not comparing like with like… Again, hardly scientific method.

I think you’ll find all wireless routers will give off similar. With the length of time these devices have been in circulation I think you are probably safe. (Same as you're probably safe crossing the road, drinking a pint or watching tv).

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

jonnyc55 — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:32:35 GMT

Yes, but people say wifi is harmless, that is not fully proven. If I can't get away with not using it and have it off, there is no worries on the matter no more.

I measured my PC and monitor, you said all electronics devices give off some RF. Which is what I measure, RF. The router was way ahead.

I worry more long term, subtle things. Things don't have to be obvious to do me no good.

I rather it be off, off. I see antennas still transmit regardless of data being there on tp link routers.

It's depressing. If it off, my mind rests at least. I will just have to buy via amazon and test and send them back if they fail.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

jonnyc55 — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:57:12 GMT

Will linksys wrt series routers work I wonder?

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

ZooBurner — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 03:11:20 GMT

If you are talking about the smart hub, turning off wi-fi only turns off your wi-fi. It will still broadcast for BT Wi-fi hotspots, well as I understand it anyway.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

Keith_Beddoe — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 05:20:51 GMT

Also the Smart Hub 2 transmits a DECT signal, which cannot be turned off.

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spile — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:28:37 GMT

Not sure about that, the DV does but afaik the SH2 only provides phone connectivity through the external socket nor dect.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

licquorice — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:53:15 GMT

No, it is a DECT base station and also has an ATA presented as the green phone socket.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

jonnyc55 — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:32:39 GMT

Ok, thank you everyone for demystifying what is going on. Appreciate it.

I'll either get a non-dect router/modem or wait for fibre roll out which is planned here. Thank you.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

Matt1984 — Wed, 13 Dec 2023 16:20:01 GMT

Hiya you can go in to the settings via the web page to turn the wifi antena completly off by going to 192.168.1.254 and configuring it that way. I have a trifield meter and found the Hub singing along for a week until i found the way to do it. you turn off the wireless then goto advanced settings and goto wireless disable. itl give you a warning that some things connected to the router might not work anymore, but thats the point hey? All the best.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

Keith_Beddoe — Wed, 13 Dec 2023 16:27:17 GMT

@Matt1984

That does not disable DECT.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

WSH — Wed, 13 Dec 2023 16:59:13 GMT

It also does not disable the TV, radio, mobile phone, microwave, baby alarms, fluorescent lights, radar, next door’s wifi etc. coming through your walls or the weak em field given off by all electronics, for that matter.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

Matt1984 — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 05:57:13 GMT

That is totally true, for example your stereo or sound bar give off lots of emf from the speakers as dose your monitor locally, as dose anything with a poorly shielded power supply, shielding with chokes or ferrite beads "Help" on a power supply or where power is going to or from but will have draw backs....

As the EMF radiation drops off greatly with distance and frequency in Air its always a good idea to limit ones exposure, Biology on Earth did not evolve with this Digital EMF and will make you sick and ill. Read the "Invisible Rainbow" for a neat history.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

Gary_C — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 12:58:18 GMT

I have worked 40 years near the sort of EMF fields that would make the OP wince and have never suffered any ill effects, and more than that, real ionising radiation from a couple of 1.7GW reactors (which are approx 100M away from where I am sitting). There are billions of neutrino's streaming through me from these reactors right now.

Stress from worry is a bigger risk factor.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

HHGTTG — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:20:58 GMT

That's the point isn't it? I have friends like the OP who have a paranoia about radiation of this type. No matter if you can stop it on your appliances ( or indeed not entertain any of it), all sorts of radiation from those sources mentioned are penetrating the walls of your residence unless you have some sort of Faraday Cage in which you can live.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

WSH — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:28:32 GMT

@Matt1984

Well, I don’t sleep with my head next to the Smart Hub 2, just as I don’t stare into the microwave while it is running but I also don't worry about it being in the next room. You do have to keep these things in perspective.

As someone with a pure science background, I object to numpties quoting, so called, science at me, which is why I bit on this thread originally. Most of the public have even less of an understanding of basic science then they do IT, and that's saying something. In answer to your point, “biology on earth did not evolve with this…”, oh yes it did. There are em bursts from lightning. Have you also never heard of cosmic radiation? Not to mention background radiation from radioactive minerals. Both a lot higher energy and more damaging than em radiation but we evolved to cope with them. If you really want to worry about something, I suggest you try radon levels, as modern insulation and draught proofing has shoved those up far higher than they used to be.

No offence intended to anyone in particular, but I always remember the unofficial Sky forum called "SkyUser". The moderator on there went by the handle "Scoobie". She always had a tag line "Never argue with an idiot as they'll drag you down to their level and then defeat you with experience". Very true. Consquently, this is my final post on the matter.

Oh, and I forgot ultraviolet light...again far higher energy than radio but we're still here.

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

Matt1984 — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 16:56:29 GMT

Wow that was a long one, you cant win with Vaxers...

Re: Radiation with all wifi off? WHY???

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:04:19 GMT

To satisfy the OP's concerns, is it not possible to buy a router that does not have any WiFi capability built in to it?

I'm thinking that such a device might be more aimed at business rather than domestic - and possibly in a 19" rack mount format?

When I worked at BT, I was involved with installing some of the network transmission equipment at TV transmitter sites. ISTR that included a router, (without WiFi), for remote monitoring of all the BT kit at each site.