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Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

Smudgger — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 11:59:48 GMT

I wish to wire a RJ12 from back of hub to back of wall socket (dont like phone in current place had to move when joined BT. wall socket already in situ from previous company) as pictures. A: is this possible? B: if so can I use normal 4 strand phone wire? C: what wire colour to which points.

Thanks.

Smudgger

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

countrypaul — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 12:48:42 GMT

You will most likely need a filter between the socket and the router if so the simplest solution is to plug a filter into the socket which will split the supply into phone/voice (BT socket) and broadband (RJ12).

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

WSH — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:01:11 GMT

The SH2 socket is RJ11, assuming you are on FTTC. (I think RJ12s are a bit smaller. I seem to recall they are what is used to connect a handset to the base).

Phone socket is a BT431A. If you are going to do that, an RJ11 socket might be easier, as RJ11 to RJ11 cables are easier to get hold of but it can be done as pins 2 and 5 on the BT plug to the middle two pins on the RJ11. The SH2 doesn’t mind which way round they are.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

Smudgger — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:07:37 GMT

Cheers WSH thanks for confirming.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

imjolly — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:08:47 GMT

are you on adsl or FTTC or FTTP. if using socket on back of hub then you must be on DV so what are you actually trying to achieve by wiring hub to socket?

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

Smudgger — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:11:39 GMT

Had to move phone when transfer to BT so want to put it back to original location which is better positioned for room layout.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

WSH — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:17:12 GMT

A good point raised by imjolly.

I’m assuming you just want to connect the router to an extension phone socket and it is ADSL or FTTC. On DV the phone plugs into the phone socket on the back of the hub, of course.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

licquorice — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:29:51 GMT

I'm still struggling to understand exactly what it is you are trying to do.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

Smudgger — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:48:45 GMT

Licquorice BT hub in corner of livingroom, old phone wall socket is in opposite corner from when I was with Virgin Media, Had to move phone to plug into BT hub but dont like it there so want to run a wire from BT hub round outside of house and back through hole to wire it into wall socket where phone used to be.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

imjolly — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:55:09 GMT

@Smudgger

do you have broadband ADSL/FTTC/FTTP?

do you have digital voice?

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

Smudgger — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:59:08 GMT

@imjolly I'm on FTTP but using my own DECT phones.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

imjolly — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:03:42 GMT

so why wire the socket if phones are dect connected. if you want to move your base to nearer the phone socket would you not be better with just a DV adapter connected to power socket

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

Smudgger — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:11:29 GMT

imjolly distance from hub to where we want phone is just over 25ft in a straight line accross room thats why is better to run a wire out through the hole where BT come into room then around outside of building and in where the phone wall socket is.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

WSH — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:13:01 GMT

If you are on FTTP then what I said doesn’t apply. The router connects to the ONT via an ethernet cable plugged into the WAN socket.

If the phone is DV the base station must connect to the socket on the back of the router or to an adapter plugged in to a power socket.

If the phone is not DV the base station must connect to the phone socket on the wall, in which case a simple phone extension lead could be run round the room.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

imjolly — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:17:03 GMT

but a DV adapter connects to hub by DECT so you could plug that into a mains socket and then connect your existing base to the adapter which would then give you a working phone and no wires. or am I missing something?

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

Smudgger — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:27:11 GMT

imjolly & wsh thank both for info didnt know about DV adapter will lookint but I also know I can wire if needed.

Thanks for all you imput.

Re: Wire from back of hub to a wall socket

imjolly — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:37:01 GMT

@Smudgger

phone BT CS 03301234150 and ask for free DV adapter then see how you get on