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Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Torkijo — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:12:42 GMT

Hi, we have a small box by our door that then feeds into this one. As we remove the phone line soon are we able to get a smaller version of this box as it gets in the way of the hall table regularly?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

imjolly — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:36:16 GMT

from your post the master socket (box) is wall mounted hence the box at the back whereas they are normally connected yo a box sunk in to the wall.

Th e good new though is when you move to full fibre to your home and also digital voice that box will no longer be required for your broadband and phone connection. another small box will be installed and in a different location decided by you

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Torkijo — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:48:58 GMT

Thanks, Fibre could be more than a year or so away as were in a market town. so current options woul dbe to either put up with it or sink it into the wall myself, there are no smaller boxes I could swap it for?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Anonymous — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:19:29 GMT

What's connected to it? I don't see a microfilter which suggests a telephone, which in turn suggests your router is connected elsewhere?

But that wouldn't normall work with a filtered faceplate, unless wired for data. So what is connected where?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Torkijo — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:31:31 GMT

Not sure, this is before it, but unless there is something else is behind furniture in the living room I dont think there is something else, we havent had anyone from BT/Openreach here for a decade

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

licquorice — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:39:04 GMT

That is simply a connector box to join the external cable to the internal cable. The other box is your master socket.

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

chrisjp — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:40:10 GMT

I assume you have broadband service. If so, where is the cable feeding your router/BT hub plugged into a wall mounted socket?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Anonymous — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:42:43 GMT

Hard to comment further when you've largely ignored my questions...

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Torkijo — Sun, 22 Sep 2024 20:00:22 GMT

Apologies, I was away for the weekend. I have not had a chance to search behind furniature, but thanks for your time on this

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Torkijo — Sun, 22 Sep 2024 20:01:50 GMT

ire goes along 4 walls and behind a lot of furnature so need to have a dig, but thanks for commenting

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

licquorice — Sun, 22 Sep 2024 20:15:54 GMT

I think you misunderstand, what does the black cable plugged into the socket in your first picture connect to?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Torkijo — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 14:23:51 GMT

I did misunderstand, that just goes to the phone, a whilte one also comes out the back, looking about the same type of cable that goes into the box

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

licquorice — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 14:25:25 GMT

This is like pulling teeth. So where is your hub/router connected?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Torkijo — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:34:38 GMT

As i said, i am presuming to a wire behind furnature, dont worry about it and I apoligse for nto able to give more info, not able to physically move the furniture at the moment so cannot check detail.

That box has 1 wire going in abck and anohter going out, then through the wall into the lounge but then it goes behind furnaute i cant get to, but i then have a RJ45 cable going into the back of the hub so i presume i something there, i just cant check as cannot remove furniture

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

WSH — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:57:35 GMT

It sounds as though there is an extension phone socket or RJ11 socket behind the furniture but, without more clarity, it’s impossible to untangle what is going on and the part being played by the box you want to downsize. Without knowing the part it is playing it is difficult to give advice on what you can do with it.

Under the circumstances I would expect an RJ11 cable to run from behind the furniture and plug into the DSL port on the hub. Are you sure it’s an RJ45, as that won’t fit the DSL port on the Smart Hub 2? If it is an RJ45, what port does it plug into, exactly?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 18:59:25 GMT

From what you describe, once the phone has gone, you could replace that master socket with a BT77a.

Ideally you would then replace the socket that has the router connected with the removed master socket.

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

WSH — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 19:42:22 GMT

Will that not involve moving the phone, if that is the black cable?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 19:58:46 GMT

@WSH

From the OP:

"As we remove the phone line soon..."

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

WSH — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 20:20:30 GMT

Ah, good point.

May I suggest the equivalent screw connector block would be easier for the OP than the IDC version?

Re: Can this box be changed to a smaller one?

chrisjp — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:15:27 GMT

I think you're going to have to face the fact that you'll need to trace ALL the cables, whether they're behind furniture or not, and provide a diagram of them, before anyone can advise on whether you can remove or change your connection boxes