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Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 11:24:52 GMT

Dear Forum,

ive discussed elsewhere thr fact i have 5 SH2s in my house as repeaters, 1 conmnected to BB and 4 are cabled in corners of house/studio to extend wifi, and the merits +- of this over the WIFI points BT offer.. so not here to discuss this.

What id like to ask if how to update those remote SH2s. The 1 connected to the broadband [is this called my access point?] auto updates. Assume if i swap that temporarily for one of the other SH2s around the house, as these others have altered IPs to allow them all to work on single SSID, so a 2nd SH2 has IP of 192.168.1.253, that would not connect to incoming broadband therefore would not update?

Why do i want to? One example is my sons Roblox on PC drops out on the point hes connected to, but does not when hes next to main access point SH2. They are the same SH2s, strength is fine, ont change is SH2 firmwares.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 11:47:16 GMT

To update a hub it needs to be connected to line as the first device, it doesn't matter what IP address you have given it, that is just on the LAN side of things.

I very much doubt if any updates will fix any problems you may have.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

TECHHERO1984 — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 11:50:14 GMT

BT/EE wouldn't recommend setting up the network this way , having 2 SMart Hub 2's on the network wont work as only one Smart Hub 2 can be configured to the exchange, there other would only act as a LAN router.

There is a far better package that includes Wifi extenders call complete WIFI , you will be allowed up to 3 extenders as part of the package and they are included in the package price.

https://youtu.be/FMZjznsFVxo

BT also offers a guarantee that if the wifi is not fully achievable in each room with all three extenders they give you £100.

This is a far better way of achieving what you want on your network.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:13:16 GMT

Re-purposing already owned hubs is a perfectly reasonable and cheap way of extending a home network.

BT/EE absolutely don't know or care about how your home network is configured

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

TECHHERO1984 — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:14:42 GMT

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Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:21:36 GMT

You clearly are clueless

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

TECHHERO1984 — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:22:41 GMT

you clearly are a troll

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

Anonymous — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:41:41 GMT

@TECHHERO1984

@andihaweswrote:
I've discussed elsewhere...the merits +- of this over the WIFI points BT offer, so not here to discuss this.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:21:19 GMT

i did uplug one of the extra ones and plugged it into wal socket, and it wouldnt connect to network. any idea why? i left it 15 - 20 mins to do so. it seemed to come online [blue circle] for a moment, then go off, no coloured circle and not able to connect to it cabled or wifi

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:28:40 GMT

i appreciate this, but i know people who have issues, need closer discs in their house, so have 5-6 for a normal sized house. i think id need more. Plus i have a studio 100m down the garden which has an amoured network cable to it, so would need a different solution for this.

This system works really well for me, and my only issue is the uuodating of 'repeaters' and this Roblox issue.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:29:12 GMT

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Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:36:06 GMT

Don't know why it didn't connect, it's IP address isn't relevant.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:42:45 GMT

for the uninitiated [me], does it matter which port in the back of the SH2 that the connection to the wall plate is made? i have a Cat5/6 cable connection into wall plate now rather then a phone line port [apologies for lack of knowledge or termonology] so does it matter which of those for ports i use?

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:47:32 GMT

So do you have FTTP rather than FTTC?

If so you need to configure port 4 of the hub as a WAN port.

There is probably a catch22 here as it requires a certain version of the hub to make port4 configurable and your version might be too old.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:28:46 GMT

whilst looking for this, ive just noticed that although i have what look like SH2s, some have a 'Hub' Interface/Product Code and others have a 'SmartHub 2' Interface/Product Code.

Do i then have a mix of Hubs and SmartHub 2s, even though they look the same?

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:41:39 GMT

Possibly.

The fundamental question here is how your broadband is delivered, is it full fibre or copper from the cabinet? That will determine what and how can be updated.

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:51:36 GMT

how do i tell?

if its 'FTTP on' in technical log for the Gateway router, then yes it is on.

For context, checked .253 router and FTTP is off, as assume its not th gateway so this should be off?

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 16:04:12 GMT

@andihawes wrote:

how do i tell?

Do you have an Optical Modem (ONT) that your router connects to.

if its 'FTTP on' in technical log for the Gateway router, then yes it is on.

That can be on regardless of whether you actually have FTTP

For context, checked .253 router and FTTP is off, as assume its not th gateway so this should be off?

It doesn't matter unless you need Port 4 as an extra LAN port, but if you have FTTP and need to connect that router to line, you will need to set it to 'On'

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

andihawes — Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:59:13 GMT

@licquoricewrote:
@andihaweswrote:

how do i tell?
Do you have an Optical Modem (ONT) that your router connects to.
My only freestanding box is the SH2. My wall socket was changed last year from what id call a normal phone line socket to a powered socket with a RJ45 connection in and lights ion. this is what my SH2 connects to.

if its 'FTTP on' in technical log for the Gateway router, then yes it is on.
That can be on regardless of whether you actually have FTTP
ok

For context, checked .253 router and FTTP is off, as assume its not th gateway so this should be off?
It doesn't matter unless you need Port 4 as an extra LAN port, but if you have FTTP and need to connect that router to line, you will need to set it to 'On'
ok

Re: Updating Remote/2nd Router

licquorice — Wed, 06 Nov 2024 08:13:18 GMT

You have FTTP, full fibre.

You need to set Port4 to FTTP mode, that is the only port that can be used to connect to the ONT

You will only be able to update Smart Hub 2s that are already at the version of firmware that supports toggling port 4 from LAN to WAN and not Smart Hubs at all.