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New progress bar is inferior

MandoN — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 21:48:30 GMT

Yesterday my BT TV Box Pro had a new progress bar for recordings I have made. For some reason, it has been made much more inferior to what it previously was. A couple of issues I have;

1. I could previously press and hold fast forward to skip 60 seconds or press and hold rewind to return 15 seconds. This is no longer working. Has this been implemented by design or is it an issue that has happened as a result of the update?

2. When fast forwarding, it doesn't show any timings on the recording anymore, nor does it show how long is left in the programme. It just shows the speed of the fast forwarding. Again, is this on purpose or a mistake in the update.

Please BT, bring back the previous features!

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derekscarborough — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 22:06:03 GMT

I totally agree with you, the old progress bar was much better.

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garybs29 — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 22:07:50 GMT

The 60 ecs skip etc just worked on mine. Also yes the bar doesn't show time when fast forwarding but it's hardly the end of the world imo

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dephead2004 — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 22:56:19 GMT

And a long press of ok button in bbc1 won't restart the programme in iplayer. Why have these features been downgraded pleas?

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zulu17 — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 23:09:13 GMT

@dephead2004 When watching a BBC channel does pressing the green button on your remote invoke a live restart of the programme within BBC iPlayer ?

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pddco — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 23:15:37 GMT

No idea why it’s changed. Perhaps to be consistent with other Apps not just recordings? Dunno.

But you can select the restart option (for iPlayer) from the play bar, by pressing OK and then the down and right cursor buttons to select the Start Again option.

Also not sure if you’re aware, but if you’re playing back a recording (not iPlayer) you can jump forward by pressing the numeric keypad buttons. 1 jumps 10% of the total time from the start, 2 20% etc… 0 jumps back to the start. So the numeric pad and skip options together seems to make it a bit easier to move through content.

Saying that, it’s very annoying that they’ve removed the dedicated index and delete buttons from the Pro’s remote!

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dephead2004 — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:31:40 GMT

@zulu17 yes it does. That's a really great tip thanks.

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dephead2004 — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:36:46 GMT

@pddco . I knew about the press 5 for 50% jump etc but not the ok/ down/right right . So thanks. Not quite as convenient as the big square box saying press ok to restart in iplayer but a good workaround.

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MandoN — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 14:37:25 GMT

@garybs29 - I've tried on several recordings from different channels and the 60s skipping will not work whatsoever for me.

And correct, it isn't the end of the world, but it is a feature that was useful and this appeared the correct forum to voice it and ask for it back..?

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MandoN — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 14:38:31 GMT

@pddco - I wasn't aware of the numeric options. Thanks for letting me know about those.

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pddco — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 15:26:44 GMT

@MandoN Bit of a long shot. Don’t know if the Pro Box is your first from BT. But if not and you happen to have a remote from an older BT box, you could try the skip buttons on there and see if they behave?

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MandoN — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:20:18 GMT

@pddco - darn it.. returned my remote control along with the previous box some time ago.

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pddco — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:53:54 GMT

@MandoN Well hats off to you for the recycling effort 😁. But if you happen to come across one of the old remotes, you’ll find they work just as well as the Pro one. And you’ll have the Delete and Stop buttons back too.

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GarethPrice — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:58:54 GMT

Skip buttons working as they always have on (both my) I/R remotes under 0.9.4

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pddco — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 23:02:37 GMT

@MandoN Like @GarethPrice Just to confirm that the skip 60s /15s feature works for me using my Pro (Bluetooth/IR) remote. S/W 0.9.4. I wonder if a soft restart (a long push of the BT button on the actual box until it flashes) might sort things out?

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GarethPrice — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 00:38:06 GMT

Just to clarify…the I/R remotes I am referring to are the old remote, not the Bluetooth one (I gave up with that after one day, unpaired it, took the batteries out and it’s in a drawer somewhere!)

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pddco — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 08:15:36 GMT

Apologies @GarethPrice . I assumed you were using the Bluetooth remote. Looks like you really didn’t like then? And to unpair it too. The ultimate put down. 😁

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GarethPrice — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 10:03:01 GMT

It’s not just the button layout and the lack of some commands on the Bluetooth remote @pddco as others have commented on, but the balance of the remote in the hand. I use the channel numbers (385 Sky News, 357 Sky Atlantic, 1-5 etc) mostly to switch channels, less so the up/down buttons and the short length of the Bluetooth remote makes this awkward to do one handed. The extra length of the previous I/R remotes works much better (for me, others may disagree lol)

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Anonymous — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 18:00:49 GMT

Just been having a play with the new play bar/info panel, personally I feel it is better looking than the previous version, particularly the channel logos showing immediately.

The blue progress icon has a Sky Q vibe to it. The yellow marker for adverts on a recording is (as others have said), similar to itvX behaviour.

I haven't really tested the playback functions beyond that.

New info panel and channel logoRecordingRecording playback and advert segment

@GarethPricewrote:
It’s not just the button layout and the lack of some commands on the Bluetooth remote @pddco as others have commented on, but the balance of the remote in the hand. I use the channel numbers (385 Sky News, 357 Sky Atlantic, 1-5 etc) mostly to switch channels, less so the up/down buttons and the short length of the Bluetooth remote makes this awkward to do one handed. The extra length of the previous I/R remotes works much better (for me, others may disagree lol)

The remote just needs decent voice control and then the size is fine (similar to Sky Q/Stream), otherwise I concur, the previous version was easier to handle in one hand.

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pddco — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 19:09:09 GMT

In case others are wondering, I think I’m right in saying that the yellow marker for adverts only appears if you’re getting Freeview channels through IP. Not your aerial.

Certainly agree about the comfort of the old remote. But being an up/down/right/left cursor user I find the old remote frustrating to use. If only they could combine the two…