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TV in Kitchen

quarkrad — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:41:02 GMT

My son has an open lounge/kitchen area and currently has a tv in the lounge fed by a BT TV box. He would like to have another tv in the kitchen area. What are the method(s) of connecting the 2nd TV to his BT TV box? (Assuming no physical wiring).

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 17:23:05 GMT

@quarkrad

I’m not sure you can assume no physical wiring 😢

But if he gets an HDMI splitter, then he can take the existing HDMI cable from it to the current TV, and another HDMI cable from it to the other TV. You can get quite long ones.

Alternatively, he might be able to send the second lot of HDMI over a WiFi transmitter to a WiFi receiver plugged into the kitchen TV.

There’s stuff that will do that on a well-known distance selling site (think South American river) but we aren’t allowed to link to it on here 😢

It may also introduce an unavoidable small delay which, if both TVs are in earshot, will manifest as a curious hollow sound, or even an echo.

Re: TV in Kitchen

-Richie- — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 18:46:42 GMT

Get a smart TV, login using the free app access with your subscription, if the TV comes with wi-fi then the only cable is for the power source.

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 19:21:22 GMT

@-Richie- @quarkrad

Yes, but will that work for recordings her son might want to play, or On Demand?

And I can’t even get Google playing Global Radio live synced across two Google devices in different rooms, unless I put them in a Group, and play them as a Group 😢

Re: TV in Kitchen

quarkrad — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 20:48:47 GMT

Thank you for your replies - I haven't got BT TV myself hence I do not know much about it. This kitchen tv will be a Smart one so am I right in thinking that if he has EE TV subscription he can also watch everything on his mobile using that subsciption? If that is the case is one solution to Chromecast from his mobile to his kitchen TV?

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:39:18 GMT

@quarkrad @-Richie-

I believe he can use Chromecast.

The EE TV app is available on Android (e.g. Sony, Philips) and Samsung TVs, but, perhaps inexplicably, not on LG, despite their 20% share of the UK 2023 sales market being second only to Samsung.

But I was assuming from that ‘open’ that the intention was to have the kitchen TV as a repeater for the lounge one, and not operating independently, with the resulting cacophony for people midway between them. However, my mistake, perhaps 😢

Re: TV in Kitchen

DarrenDev — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:45:15 GMT

The EE TV app is only available on Samsung smart TVs - not Android, or any other manufacturer.
The EE TV app is only for watching EE TV purchases though - subscription content is in the relevant apps (e.g. Now TV, discovery+, etc).

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:08:49 GMT

@DarrenDev

Thanks for the correction!

You might want to get somebody to look at this page then:-

https://www.bt.com/help/tv/learn-about-tv/tv-app/general/tv-on-the-go-with-the-bt-tv-app-and-online-player

and clarify what it means by Android there, since Sony have been selling Android-based TVs since 2015 and Philips have followed suit more recently, to save anybody else falling into the error I have fallen into here 😢

Re: TV in Kitchen

DarrenDev — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:14:11 GMT

To be fair, it just says Android - not Android TV. Anyone with an Android TV will know the difference, or very quickly realise it.

Re: TV in Kitchen

zulu17 — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:57:26 GMT

@Midnight_Voice I believe the EE TV app

allows viewing of TNT Sports 1,2,3,and 4 ,plus Eurosport 1 and 2 if you have Sports/Big Sport or Full Works Tv pack Also Discovery channel if you have Entertainment/Big Entertainment or Full Works TV pack. One exception here is the EE TV app on the EE TV Youview boxes which do not offer the live channels within the app.

It also has a small selection of catch up and on demand from those channels. Most of that on demand can also be be found on Discovery+ app often earlier and for for longer periods although there is some historic BT Sport content that WBD appear not to have provisioned on the Discovery+ app.

(Comprehensive catchup and ondemand of TNT sports /Eurosport and various live event streaming and live channel streaming of TNT Sport/Eurosport/and associated Discovery channels is on the Discovery+ app.)

EE TV movie/Tv program purchases and 48hr rentals can also be viewed on the EE TV app.

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:19:37 GMT

@zulu17 @DarrenDev @-Richie-

I am now sorry I mentioned EE TV, if indeed I did 😢

The interesting question I tried to answer was making two distance-separated TVs show the same YouView output in a world where you can’t mirror Pro boxes on Mini boxes.

I am still waiting to hear if this was actually the question that @quarkrad asked, or if I misunderstood?

Re: TV in Kitchen

-Richie- — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 19:54:58 GMT

@Midnight_Voicewrote:
I am still waiting to hear if this was actually the question that @quarkrad asked, or if I misunderstood?

My understanding was the OP wanted to watch TV in the kitchen, which is why I promoted app usage on a smart tv, there are alternatives such as a Firestick or chromecast.

To view NowTV content if subscribed, use the login details as part of the EETV subscription.
To view Netflix which is bundled with EETV packages, install the Netflix app and login
To view TNT Sports or Discovery content, login with the credentials used when activating

All of which are included free if you have the main subscription with EETV, for example the Full Works includes all of the above.

@Midnight_Voice I believe you have another question or unrelated, you're best off starting your own thread to avoid any confusion 🙂

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:52:06 GMT

Hi @-Richie-

It’s well worth rereading the original question, both for the bit about ‘open lounge/kitchen area’, from which I assumed these two TVs would likely both be in earshot of anybody present, and for the bit about ‘connecting the second TV to his BT TV box’.

So I think my answer was bang on topic if I have interpreted @quarkrad ‘s query correctly, and my ancillary question (“Have I?”) is also bang on topic.

You have answered the question of exactly how much of the EE TV material you can watch on a second TV; very useful to know, but not the answer to the question I thought was being asked.

Perhaps the issue of who should be starting a separate thread, if one were needed, is not so clear-cut 🤔

Re: TV in Kitchen

gomezz — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:54:03 GMT

If the intention is to relay whatever is on the main TV in the lounge to a second TV in the kitchen then perhaps a wireless HDMI transmitter/receiver system will do the job such as this one

Wireless-Transmitter-Streaming-Projector-HDMI-TX-RX-Mini-Adapter on Amazon

This assumes the programme originates from an external device such as a Youview box and may also need an HDMI splitter unless already using an AV receiver that can feed two TV sets. I am also thinking that there may still be an echoey delay on the audio so muting the kitchen TV audio and turning up the main audio so it can be heard "round the corner" in the kitchen area is the thing to do.

I have no personal experience of using such a set up so further research is needed by the OP to determine if this fits their bill.

Re: TV in Kitchen

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 09:44:45 GMT

@quarkrad

This is a fine example of why "asking for a friend" isn't a great idea, as the person asking the question generally doesn't know the whole story & can't answer specific queries. So like this thread, multiple suggestions are put forward while speculating what's actually required. It would be best for your son to sign up & join in.

Re: TV in Kitchen

gomezz — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:25:38 GMT

At least the solutions offered may be of some use to others who may be looking for answers to the same or similar situation. Having a discussion around the pros and cons of each solution is no bad thing.

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:33:44 GMT

@gomezz

Glad you agree pretty much exactly with my first reply in this thread, above.

But you may get in trouble for the Amazon link, which I was warned was a big no-no when I did it one time 😢

Re: TV in Kitchen

Midnight_Voice — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:43:24 GMT

@gomezz @quarkrad @Anonymous @-Richie- @zulu17

The one solution that hasn’t been put forward if simultaneity is not actually needed is to add a Mini box for the TV in the kitchen. That seems to me altogether the simplest alternative in that case.

But of course, it presupposes this BT TV box is backed by a BT (now EE) TV subscription (as indeed do all the suggestions referencing EE TV), and we don’t know if that is the case either.

Re: TV in Kitchen

quarkrad — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 18:01:49 GMT

Sorry - been away. Thank you all for your replies. Both TV's are too close together to have both on at the same time with any sort of volume. The scenarios I was thinking of, and apologies for not detailing, were:

1. Main TV not switched on. Kitchen TV on wall switched on and son wanting to watch football

2. Both TVs on but sound off on kitchen TV (son could watch football but listen via radio - assuming radio is transmitting same match).

My understanding now, having done a bit more reading, is that one scenario is to have a 2nd wifi connected streaming box connected to the 2nd TV with the quoted limitations (e.g. possible bandwidth restrictions, etc).

The other scenario I'm not sure about (not if it is even possible), is to have one subscription to the main TV only. (Is there a similar mobile phone app as Sky Go for EE TV? If there was he could potentially watch all his subscribed channels on his phone rather than his TV). If this is possible then, for those occasions he wanted to watch football in the kitchen, he could have it playing on his mobile and Chromcast it to his TV.*

* Accept there is still the sound/volume issue if he wanted two TV playing at the same time (I don't think he will).

Re: TV in Kitchen

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:17:45 GMT

So @-Richie- nailed it post #3.

No streaming boxes, splitters, transmitters or Chromcast required. Just buy a smart TV with Now & Discovery+ apps & he can watch football directly on the TV through it's apps.

It's highly unlikely that a radio stream would match with the action due to various delays. But get a TV that also supports bluetooth & he can pair head/earphones to it for listening when the main TV is on.