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Failed Recording

northshields — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:58:27 GMT

I have the BTTV Box Pro. Last night I set the box to record the first episode of "Joan" but the recording finished just a couple of minutes before the end.

This could have been because ITV sent out the relevant signal early (which is probable) or because the Box threw a wobbler (which is possible).

Did anyone else record the same programme and did it work properly? This would help me to understand the cause of the problem.

Re: Failed Recording

zulu17 — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 10:31:59 GMT

I recorded on a aerial feed from Crystal Palace transmitter on a Freeview recorder. The accurate recording for ITV1 HD appeared to start at 21:02 and record for 62 minutes . That suggests that the broadcast exceeded its schedule time window of 21:00 to 22:00 by upto 4 minutes.

Re: Failed Recording

northshields — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:05:47 GMT

Zulu17

Thank you very much for that. It suggests that the problem was with ITV but I certainly don’t understand why that prevents ITV from sending out the relevant signal at the end of the programme whenever that happens to be.

Re: Failed Recording

Brucemeister5 — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:44:52 GMT

We recorded it on our Pro tv box on aerial feed from Rowridge transmitter. The EETV app is telling me that the recording was 1 hour and 2 minutes long, but I’m waiting until I get access to the box to see whether or not the end was chopped off.

Re: Failed Recording

Brucemeister5 — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 12:11:06 GMT

We’ve got the full programme, but it cuts out before the end credits have quite finished. That’s something that’s been happening fairly often with our ITV1 recordings recently, not that we record much off that channel.

Re: Failed Recording

northshields — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 12:58:31 GMT

Brucemeister5

Thank you for replying. My recording didn’t get as far as the credits. We get our programmes from Pontop Pike but I hadn’t realised that the time signal was affected by the transmitter used.

Re: Failed Recording

Midnight_Voice — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 15:07:39 GMT

@northshields @Brucemeister5

It’s probably a regional thing.

Rowridge is Meridian for itv, Pontop Pike is Granada, maybe Tyne Tees if you used 3 instead of 103.

Re: Failed Recording

GarethPrice — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 19:21:04 GMT

@Midnight_Voice @northshields @Brucemeister5 @zulu17

Watched my recording earlier, IP mode, it cut off just as, I presume, Joan was about to agree to do a job for the ‘Antique Dealer’, ie it didn’t make the credits although I suspect very close to.

Re: Failed Recording

Hunter2660 — Wed, 02 Oct 2024 20:39:29 GMT

I stopped using my pro box to record over a year ago. If there is something we wish to record, and we’re out, I use the TV with hard drive attached and use padding, or just use ITVX. At least then we get to watch the full show. 😎

Re: Failed Recording

northshields — Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:55:54 GMT

Just by way of an update, I got so fed up with recordings, especially on ITV, finishing before the end that I contacted them to see what the reason was.

The gist of the reply is that it is down to the PVR being used - for example, ones with Freeview+ will usually avoid the problem. Which rather begs the question of why BT decided to saddle its customers with Youview instead.

The other question it raises is whether the advantages of a subscription to BTTV are outweighed by the disadvantages,

Re: Failed Recording

Midnight_Voice — Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:20:00 GMT

@northshields

YouView came first, and BT got on board with them years ago.

Freeview+ would never have happened if YouView hadn’t been intransigent, and deaf to the requests from the broadcasters, who anyway didn’t want to sully the Freeview name with the paid services that BT, and later TalkTalk, were using the YouView platform for.

Hence the initiative for a platform the broadcasters had better control over, free from the rather doctrinaire ‘this is what we do and this is how we do it’ that YouView have always promulgated. Most especially over padding, for instance, though there are a lot of other examples, like showing 4:3 programmes with black bars each side in 16:9 (good) but never allowing Stretchyvision (bad) and worse, removing the information that the programme had once been 4:3, which the DBook recommended be preserved, so that aware TVs could handle the signal how the viewer wanted it, and not how YouView said it should be.

So I don’t think the broadcasters would have allowed BT to join Freeview+, even if BT had wanted to. And BT, after BT Vision, didn’t want to go it alone with its own platform again.

So, as we have seen, when YouView want to give you medicine, BT has to suck it up 😢

The EETV Apple TV box neatly sidesteps the padding problem by not recording at all, as does Sky Stream, BT’s nascent third attempt at bringing us nearly, but not quite, what we want.