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Distinguished Guru
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Message 11 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?


@sparky2k wrote:

I did read the link but I couldn't see where it defined unlimited.  A lot of companies define a limit for unlimited as they don't appear to understand the Oxford dictionary term of unlimited as having no limit to usage but applying say a 300GB limit, 3000 texts unlimited, 500MB unlimited etc.  I also read the part about If you exceed your usage allowance, you'll be charged for additional usage in units of five gigabytes (GB), at £5 per 5GB.

 

Anyway, my torrents are going at 150kbps on my 2Mbps line and have been all weekend so if TT fibre still gives me that at least for torrents and room for everything else on fibre I'll stay with them.  No point going to BT 40/10 Mbps broadband if can only use it on certain protocols.  My only concern I guess is if the throttling on TT is controlled by BT after switching to fibre?  If it's the same as BT then I may as well just move to BT and get the 40/10 Mbps with free BT WiFi access instead of TT's 40/2 Mbps and no access to WiFi hotspots.



You can use it on all protocols ,its just that p2p like most ISp's is throttled during certain times.

 

But you have to go with what is best for your circumstances, what suits me does not necessarily suit you.Smiley Wink

toekneem

(EASBF)

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sparky2k
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Message 12 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?

I'm not sure what I'm going to do, I could do with BT's 40Mbps up / 10Mbps down (26.4Mbps up / 7Mbps down in my case by speed checker) as could stream better to my phone and use a VNC client on my phone to control my computer, especially if I also had free WiFi access to hotspots and future 80Mbps connection speeds. But then BT at my exchange might thottle heavily on torrents and perhaps other protocols in the future due to more demand on their network.  I've heard some users don't have a problem with torrents though staying a decent speed all the time and my neighbours who have BT Infinity say it's very fast on everything.  I'd be happy if torrents still download at least 100kB/s but apparently when the traffic shaping is on it's closer to 0kB/s.  I don't plan to have torrents hogging the network at max speed 24/7 and I've limited the number of connections.

 

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Hermish
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Message 13 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?

When looking for ISP’s remember that the throttle is in place for a legitimate reason, BTs network can’t cope with huge amounts of users using P2P during peak times so they throttle it, when I was with Virgin there was no throttle in place and during peak periods my internet was always sub-par useless compared to what I get with BT. If you are a serious torrent user like myself you should look into getting a VPN tunnel to bypass BTs throttle.

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sparky2k
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Message 14 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?

Perhaps, are VPN tunnels still cheaper than ISPs that don't throttle?  I've had a look at non-throttling ISPs (business and leased lines) but cost over £60 to £1000/month just for internet and no phone.  Think VPNTUNNEL was under £5/month so could go with that and BT if it definately works, I read some VPNs can still be dedetect and the torrent traffic found so blocked or VPN not permitted unless it's a business line?  I guess I'd need a modem-router that supports VPN also, or install some software.

 

But if BT can't handle torrent traffic it's perhaps not worth it as could run slow still due to network congestion due to BT serving a lot more users than TT.  Most ISPs seem to just use BT wholsale products where TT has their own backhaul network.

 

I still haven't heard back from TT probably becuase it's a bank holiday today for when my contract is finished.  Otherwise I could just order a separate line with BT and still keep TT.  Is it possible to link the two networks if I find I can afford it and have TT and BT fibre in the future to give max speed?  I think I'd probably would end up with two access gateway addresses and could configure some devices to run on BT and the other on TT?

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Message 15 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?

I'll say one word. Newsgroups!
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Hermish
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Message 16 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?

The Home Hub does not support the use of VPN tunnels so I brought a specialist Linksys E2000 for that very reason and to be honest it is doing just fine, the reason that the commercial arm of BT can’t support large amounts of torrent traffic at peak periods is because of the millions of customers who use it. However if you’re just a downloader then a VPN tunnel is an enormous help and not many customers use them but if you are a more than eager seeder BT can and will throttle P2P uploads throughout the day. I would suggest looking at BE and going for their service if your looking to seed more than download.

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Message 17 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?


@sparky2k wrote:

I'm not sure what I'm going to do, I could do with BT's 40Mbps up / 10Mbps down (26.4Mbps up / 7Mbps down in my case by speed checker) as could stream better to my phone and use a VNC client on my phone to control my computer, especially if I also had free WiFi access to hotspots and future 80Mbps connection speeds. But then BT at my exchange might thottle heavily on torrents and perhaps other protocols in the future due to more demand on their network.  I've heard some users don't have a problem with torrents though staying a decent speed all the time and my neighbours who have BT Infinity say it's very fast on everything.  I'd be happy if torrents still download at least 100kB/s but apparently when the traffic shaping is on it's closer to 0kB/s.  I don't plan to have torrents hogging the network at max speed 24/7 and I've limited the number of connections.

 


It could possibly be 80Mb/20Mb soon with the upgradeing of Infinity, not sure if this will be charged or not

 

In the future any ISP including BT can change what they want, no one, you , me or an ISP can say what is going to happen in the future

 

Like I have said it's your choice.

toekneem

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Message 18 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?


@Webby wrote:
I'll say one word. Newsgroups!

I'll say two words.

 

newsgroups.

Seedboxes.Smiley Very Happy

toekneem

(EASBF)

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Message 19 of 19

Re: BT Infinity or TalkTalk Fibre Upgrade?

I'm afraid I'm going to have to lock this thread folks, this is a BT forum for BT based products so discussions about other ISPs offerings aren't allowed. If you have any specific questions for BT Infinity other than those which have been answered here please feel free to start a new thread.

 

Sorry for any inconvenience.

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