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michael21
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BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=75130110&postcount=89 My parents have had the BT Vision box since last December and get BT Sports 1 & 2 via terrestrial, as they are on an exchange that still doesn't have FTTC and highly unlikely it will get it. This week though they got a letter from BT stating that from 20th October that the BT Sports channels will be no longer available through an aerial and will be broadcast via the copper multicast platform for ADSL customers which was enabled a few months ago on their exchange. I expect then something will happen on 20th October on Freeview with the two cleared slots that have been vacated. Does this apply to the whole of the UK? Anyone else had a letter?
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StewM
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

Hi, to get BT Sports over broadband then the exchange has to be upgraded to Multicast. So as more and more exchanges are upgraded then eventually BT will be able to give up the two DTT slots.

Stew
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michael21
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

But the mux doesn't have regional variations so how can it be switch of in one area?
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StewM
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

The number of customers receiving the transmissions over DTT is getting smaller and smaller since BT are changing customers from DTT over to broadband. They have already stopped adding any customers. So eventually BT will just stop the whole tranmission.

Stew
zulu17
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14


@michael21 wrote:
But the mux doesn't have regional variations so how can it be switch of in one area?

All this seems to be is BT moving subscribers onto copper multicast where the facility is available - thus they get 3 sports channels rather than the two available via the encypted Freeview channels. It doesn't mean that the encrypted Freeview channels will cease to be transmitted at this time but rather that those affected users will no longer have active decryption cards and instead  will get their BT Sports and ESPN channels via copper broadband. 

michael21
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

Do we no what area will be switch off off 20/10/14?

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StewM
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

No area will switch off.

 

What makes you think there will be?

 

Stew

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umpire
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

I agree with StewM and zulu17.

 

Surely what BT are doing is identifying all customers who currently receive BT Sport over the aerial but are capable of receiving those channels via broadband Copper Multicast. They are then gradually moving those customers over to the multicast service, hence sending them a letter saying the change will happen for them on a particular date. They don't need to do this for all customers at the same time. Up to BT how they manage this change over.

 

Eventually the only customers left using the TV aerial transmissions will be a small number who can't receive the service via Copper or Fibre Multicast due to the limitations of their line (or a refusal to sign up to Infinity). At some point in the future for those remaining customers an unwelcome letter saying BT will be turning off the aerial service might appear, but for now the service is still being transmitted from all main DTT transmitters as far as we know.  

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cooperman
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

If the switch off is not imminent and it continues to be available on all transmitters what is the point of forcing customers onto a lesser service of BTS by multicast over copper. This reduces the recording and watching ability to just one channel instead of two which was highlighted yesterday with BTS 1 and 2 both showing Euro Rugby games at the same time. If they are continuing with the DTT transmissions for all transmitters then it would be better for non infinity customers to continue receiving it via their aerial until switch off time.
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umpire
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Re: BT letter saying BT Sports 1 & 2 are closing on freeview on 20/10/14

It's not necessarily a lesser service.

  • You get three sports channels instead of just two. I'm sure even those not that interested in ESPN won't complain about that.
  • The quality of the multicast SD pictures is a bit better than the DTT SD pictures.
  • As far as I understand it those with reasonable ADSL speeds can watch/record two channels at the same time.

 

As to why not move everyone over at the same time just before they turn off the DTT signals, well that would potentially be a recipe for disaster. They are trying to roll out the change in a controlled, well managed, staged manner. This is no different to how they are doing the BT Mail roll-out. Like it or not some customers can hit problems with multicast that need time and effort to sort out. In an extreme case they might even have to temporarily be put back on DTT. It also makes sense to build up the extra demand on the broadband back-end systems gradually and monitor performance. To cross their fingers and just hope they could move everyone across one weekend and it would all work flawlessly on the Monday would just be foolhardy. Imagine the deluge of complaints they might get from people who could no longer access the sports channels for one reason or another. Smiley LOL

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