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Fair use policy?

After trying to get more info on this via chat and being just thanked and chat closed twice now... I thought I'd try on the forums.

 

I am aware that BT uses bandwith throttling and durnig peak times (which is about all day in the weekend). It states it slows down P2P traffic, but nowhere it says to what speeds. As I am thinking of getting Infinity Unlimited, I don't want my 40 Mbit speeds to be dropped to 2 Mbit.


On the fair use policy page (linked below) it states that P2P is slowed down during peak times.
http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/c/346,401,419,424/a_id/10495
This is shown in Section 2: Traffic management to optimise network utilisation (what happens during busy times and places in addition to traffic management described in section 1)

 

Is here anyone that can tell me how much this is slowed down when using BT Infinity Unlimited?

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Re: Fair use policy?

Hi Saibork, maybe not the answer you were looking for, but its slowed down as much as it is needed during peak times.

 

It is ONLY p2p traffice that is throttled any thing else will not be affected by the throttling.

 

I do have to say that if p2p was my priority, then I would not join them, but as it is only a small % of what I use Infinity for then I am perfectly happy with it.

toekneem

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Re: Fair use policy?

Ok, sounds fine. If not needed, then not much is limited. At least not default to the minimum then 🙂

 

p2p is not that high of a priority, as long as other data as streaming and getting games from steam for example will still work as normal.

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Re: Fair use policy?

you will be lucky to download @ 10kb/s during peak time caps mate - take my word for it - it sucks , but if you can download via ftp - then they cant cap it so you will get full speed 24/7

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Re: Fair use policy?

It is still only the p2p protocol that is throttled at peak times.

 

At peak times all other downloads ftp/newsgroups come down at normal speeds.

 

"Steam" was mentioned, I know nothing of that, maybe someone else can give some info as there are plenty of steam users on here going by the outcry when there was trouble.Smiley Wink

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Re: Fair use policy?


@toekneem wrote:

It is still only the p2p protocol that is throttled at peak times.

 

At peak times all other downloads ftp/newsgroups come down at normal speeds.

 

"Steam" was mentioned, I know nothing of that, maybe someone else can give some info as there are plenty of steam users on here going by the outcry when there was trouble.Smiley Wink


Hi Toekneem,

 

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disagree with your first two statements. 😞

During peak times, I'm consistently seeing throttling on http and also lag when playing on XBox Live. 😞

 

See below for speedtests:

Outside of peak hours, my connection reverts to 37.17Mb/s DL and ~8.15-8.2Mb/s UL speeds.

 

*** Edited to include the final statement ***

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Re: Fair use policy?

Hi

Steam works just fine for me I downloaded all my games in record time I got around 3.9 to 4.2 MB/s as a constant throughput over 26 minutes when reloading Left For dead 2 about 8/9 Gb. 

 And all my games seem to work fine in the day and the evening get the odd bit of slow down but nothing beyond what's normal for network games at peak times.      

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Re: Fair use policy?

 


@Rottie wrote:

@toekneem wrote:

It is still only the p2p protocol that is throttled at peak times.

 

At peak times all other downloads ftp/newsgroups come down at normal speeds.

 

"Steam" was mentioned, I know nothing of that, maybe someone else can give some info as there are plenty of steam users on here going by the outcry when there was trouble.Smiley Wink


Hi Toekneem,

 

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disagree with your first two statements. 😞

During peak times, I'm consistently seeing throttling on http and also lag when playing on XBox Live. 😞

 

See below for speedtests:

Outside of peak hours, my connection reverts to 37.17Mb/s DL and ~8.15-8.2Mb/s UL speeds.

 

*** Edited to include the final statement ***




 

 

I'm sorry but I disagree, that is not throttling, throttling is put on by the ISP, what you are seeing is just general congestionduring busy periods.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling

 

If  as you say BT are throttling we would have a lot more complaints.

I am not experiencing slow downs on http or on newsgroups (nntp) and I use newsgroups extensively. I am certainly not noticing slowdown on my occasional ftp uploads.

 

During these throttling periods that you mention, why not try the GLASNOST test which will show ant throttling.

There are other diagnostic tools here:

http://www.measurementlab.net/measurement-lab-tools#glasnost

toekneem

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