LANDLINE SOCKETS

[Keith_Beddoe]

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@TEG33 wrote:
Hi Keith, the bedroom socket has a red wire in No.3,guess i will have to re-wire the socket down to he hall box ,will get son to do it ( as he is a teenager i dont need to Google anything, as he knows it all !!).
Thanks for the good advice.

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@TEG33 wrote:
Hi Keith, the bedroom socket has a red wire in No.3,guess i will have to re-wire the socket down to he hall box ,will get son to do it ( as he is a teenager i dont need to Google anything, as he knows it all !!).
Thanks for the good advice.

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Hopefully there is a red wire loose where the connections 2 and 5 are terminated, and it should be just a matter of inserting the extra wire.

It is a bit odd that a modern phone needs the ring wire. The answer can usually be found by looking at the phone cable or plug, to see whether there are three wires present instead of just two.

Which make and model is the bedroom phone, as a clue may be found on the online manual?

The "ring" wire is a legacy feature from the days of dial phones, where one of its function was to prevent "bell tinkle" on the main phone, when dialling out on an extension phone.

That was a common problem in the 1960-1970s, I remember it well.

[TEG33]

The phone upstairs is a BT Converse 2200 Keith.

[Keith_Beddoe]

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@TEG33 wrote:
The phone upstairs is a BT Converse 2200 Keith.

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Then there is a very good chance that it uses the ring wire, as its often used on PABX systems, where the ringing current  comes in on a separate wire from the switchboard  as the speech channel is separate from the signalling channel, unlike a normal exchange line.

The manual mentions about only using the line cord which comes with it, which would probably indicate that its wired differently.

[Keith_Beddoe]

Looking at the picture of a replacement cable, it looks like it is fully wired. and not just two wires.

That would indicate to me, that the ringing current comes in on a separate wire (3).

[Devon_Dave]

A red wire? Does not sound like BT cable. Not a colour they use.

[Keith_Beddoe]

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@Devon_Dave wrote:
A red wire? Does not sound like BT cable. Not a colour they use.

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It probably a dirty orange which looks like red under poor light conditions.

Part of the second pair in the colour sequence. ie blue, orange, green, brown, slate.

[Keith_Beddoe]

@TEG33  Is your issue now resolved?

[TEG33]

Hi Keith, am going to ask a local retired BT man who now does extra phone sockets ,etc, to see what he can do.....if its a major rewire will probably just have to live with it.

Many thanks for all the input, you are very imformative.

[DavidM]

Thanks for getting back @TEG33  and thanks for the great advice from @Keith_Beddoe .

@TEG33 it would be great if you could get back to us and let the community know how your BT man gets on with this. We're always keen to learn.

Thanks

David