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k2150
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The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

I'm hoping that at some point this month (in April),  BT will make some kind of official statement to the effect that the existing 300GB allowance on Infinity Option 2 has been removed. Which means anyone going over 300GB (uploads + downloads) in a single month will no longer be penalised. This doesn't mean that the heaviest users are let off the hook, as I understand it, even after the 300GB allowance is scrapped you can still be classified as a heavy user and be penalised for it. The question that people will be asking is this ...

"At what point above 300 GB will I be classified as a "Heavy User", or "How Much can I safely  download during Peak Periods
before being classified as a "Heavy User" ?

This also implies BT will probably be using traffic managment as the way to control bandwidth demands on the network; We won't know exactly what those traffic Management policies will be until the end of June 2011, when BT along with a number of other Broadband providers launch a new traffic management transparency code ...

The new voluntary code includes three commitments:

1. Firstly to provide more information to consumers about what traffic management takes place, for what purpose and with what impact.

2. Secondly to comply with a set of good practice principles on providing information to consumer that is:  understandable; appropriate; accessible; current; comparable; and verifiable.

3. Thirdly to publish a common Key Facts Indicator (KFI) table, summarising the traffic management practices they use for each broadband product they currently market, which will be available on ISPs’ websites by end of June 2011.

http://www.broadbanduk.org/content/view/479/7/

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sahotaquack
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Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

"I confirm to you that, from April 2011 we’ll be removing this fair usage policy for BT Total Broadband Option 3 and BT Infinity Option 2. The Broadband speed will not be restricted once this action is taken. However, as I am not able to confirm the exact date to you, I would request you to wait till the end of April, 2011. "

 

Reply i recieved after enquiring about restrictions after going past 300GB from a BT employee.

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k2150
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Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

What you should have asked is ...

 

"WILL YOU CONTINUE TO USE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT POLICY TO IDENTIFY AND THROTTLE THE HEAVIEST USERS
ON THE INFINITY (UNLIMITED) PACKAGE AFTER 30th APRIL 2011"

 

AND IF THEY TELL YOU "NO", THEY ARE WRONG!

 

I you want a fully unfettered Fibre Optic Broadband service, with no traffic management, no targetting of heavy usage, no throttling of P2P, FTP, NNTP. If you want to download as much as you like, when you like with absolutely NO RESTRICTIONS ... visit *another ISP* they will sell you unlimited 40 Mbit Fibre Optic Broadband for £130 per month. So let me ask you a question,

 

are you prepared to pay £130 pm ?

 

Sorry to tell you this but there is no such thing as an unrestricted FTTC service availble anywhere in the UK
 

certainly not for £25:60p per month there isn't.

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sahotaquack
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Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

Thats because i asked if i will still be restricted if i go over the 300GB allowance per month. Everyone knows we will still be restricted with the p2p at peak times. You seem to be so anti-bt, why are you even on these forums if you hate them so much?

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k2150
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Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

sahotaquack wrote:
Thats because i asked if i will still be restricted if i go over the 300GB allowance per month. Everyone knows we will still be restricted with the p2p at peak times. You seem to be so anti-bt, why are you even on these forums if you hate them so much?

 

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Don't start turning this into an issue of me hating BT, this is an issue of your reluctance to face the facts.

 

I'm not anti BT in any way shape or form, and very happy with my Infinity connection. You on the other hand  don't seem to be very happy with yours. You see, I have little patience for someone who repeatedly posts the same question in the forums, and then because he doesn't like the answer, reposts the same question in another thread.

I responded to your question here:

http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-Speed-Connection-Issues/BT-TO-SCRAP-300GB-LIMIT/m-p/165579#M70898

you obviously don't like my answer or don't believe my answer, either way I dont really care. But you then continue on to say that you had called BT and are told by someone at BT that ...

"I confirm to you that, from April 2011 we’ll be removing this fair usage policy for BT Total Broadband Option 3 and BT Infinity Option 2. The Broadband speed will not be restricted once this action is taken. However, as I am not able to confirm the exact date to you, I would request you to wait till the end of April, 2011. "


and it would appear that you like this answer from BT so much that you are forced to post it in a different thread I had started regarding the traffic management transparancy code. And once again I tell you that whoever gave you that information is wrong.

 

Are you beginning to see a pattern here, let's just end this here & now. If you would like to believe that after the 300GB allowance is removed that you can download over 300 GB and remain untouched by traffic management go right ahead, because at some point above 300GB you will trip traffic management & have your speed cut. END OF STORY, bye bye.

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sahotaquack
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Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

I continue to post the same thing? I posted it in the one you linked and that's it, nowere on this post have I posted a quistion regarding the matter. If you read my post, you will
see I said I emailed, but I guess your to busy trolling on BT to realise. I don't seem to be happy with my connection? I don't see where i may have implied this as I'm very happy going from 0.30 connection to a 38meg connection.
I will believe someone who is a employee
of BT (the the big company who supply yours
and my broadband if you haven't yet noticed) in comparison to someone on a forum who is constantly going against what BT have said regarding the FUP. Don't get me wrong most people on these forums are very nice and informing and then there's the...
I find it funny how you are indenial in what BT have said, the very company who is control of the quistion in matter
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k2150
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Message 7 of 12

Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

and I find it funny how anyone can be so gullible as to believe they can receive unrestricted FTTC, with no throttling of heavy usage for £25:60 per week,  lilke I said you just don't like the answer so now your throwing your toys out the pram, you will have your answer soon enough when the 300GB allowance is officially removed, until then ...yawn!

 

your becoming boring.

 

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jayjay
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Message 8 of 12

Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

well fup has gone and no longer in operation as i found out over 300 gig now and enjoying what it should be unlimited with traffic managment which as i said in other post is fine lighten up and enjoy like sky and virgin do there customers

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k2150
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Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

Suppose I'm a heavy downloader and decide I want to max-out on my Infinity connection. At 12 midnight I load up my Bit torrent client with enough torrents to run for the next 16 hours (off-peak period). Assuming I'm on a 40 Mbit/sec connection, in 16 hours I will have racked up a total of 281GB of data downloaded in just one session.

 

Now if you think that BT or any other ISP are going to allow that kind of unfettered downloading your crazy.
The whole network would go into meltdown. 

 

BT will continue to traffifc manage heavy usage on the network AFTER THE 300GB ALLOWANCE HAS BEEN REMOVED.
I for one am glad they do, because if they didn't you wouldn't even be able to load the google homepage.

 

Now I'm done with this thread, I'm tired of repeating myself, some people will never get it.

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Sage
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Re: The New Traffic Management Transparency Code

 


@k2150 wrote:

What you should have asked is ...

 

"WILL YOU CONTINUE TO USE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT POLICY TO IDENTIFY AND THROTTLE THE HEAVIEST USERS
ON THE INFINITY (UNLIMITED) PACKAGE AFTER 30th APRIL 2011"

 

AND IF THEY TELL YOU "NO", THEY ARE WRONG!

 

I you want a fully unfettered Fibre Optic Broadband service, with no traffic management, no targetting of heavy usage, no throttling of P2P, FTP, NNTP. If you want to download as much as you like, when you like with absolutely NO RESTRICTIONS ... visit *another ISP* they will sell you unlimited 40 Mbit Fibre Optic Broadband for £130 per month. So let me ask you a question,

 

are you prepared to pay £130 pm ?

 

Sorry to tell you this but there is no such thing as an unrestricted FTTC service availble anywhere in the UK
 

certainly not for £25:60p per month there isn't.


For what you desribe the price would be considerabley more than £130pm. All domestc BB is a contended service and traffic shaping is in place due to people like you trying to hog all the shared bandwidth.

 

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