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@DV

 

Thanks for the info.

 

It all makes sense now (I think). SWMBO was looking on one of the leading supermarket chains websites yesterday and when finished closed the window down. I then went to my BTYahoo e-mail page (you know the one, where you can't block ads), refreshed it and by chance the little advertisment window had changed the same leading supermarket. This must of been a pure coincidence. Isn't it?

 

Anyway "every little helps".

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Pasha_Selim
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Message 12 of 28

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Just noticed that NoScript, the Firefox privacy add-on I use along with Ghostery and RequestPolicy, is no longer displaying the bt.com script warning called "undefined".

 

Has BT already made a change to the scripts/tracking software that runs in the background here?

 

If not, can someone explain why this has disappeared please?

 

Pash

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Message 13 of 28

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I'm not sure how all this tracking and privacy stuff works

 

However clicking on my own id gives me this

 

 

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Pasha_Selim
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Message 14 of 28

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Yeh, I find it all very complicated, but I hope this thread will teach me something.

 

The Omniture script I'm blocking with Ghostery has this to say:

  1. WARNING: Changing any of the below variables will cause drastic
  2. changes to how your visitor data is collected.  Changes should only be
  3. made when instructed to do so by your account manager.

I'd better not quote any code because that could be copyright violation, but it also has these lines:

 

Send data as the JS file is loaded page code does not call s_dc

 

and

TOUCH CLARITY INTEGRATION add callback function to touchclarity.js observer list when a serve has been completed, the callback function will be notified

 

It looks like a script to me, and it makes me feel very uncomfortable that data might be sent to third parties using software techniques that aren't covered in the Privacy policy, not being cookies.

 

Pash

 

 


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Hi All,

 

I know that this is a topic that you are all interested in. We have provided you with privacy policy and this is what is available at this time. We will pass your comments on, but we would like to remind you that this community is here for general help, advice, and technical support.

 

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Message 16 of 28

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@DS wrote:

@DV

 

Thanks for the info.

 

It all makes sense now (I think). SWMBO was looking on one of the leading supermarket chains websites yesterday and when finished closed the window down. I then went to my BTYahoo e-mail page (you know the one, where you can't block ads), refreshed it and by chance the little advertisment window had changed the same leading supermarket. This must of been a pure coincidence. Isn't it?

 

Anyway "every little helps".


 

 

Interesting this - especially as the ads in mail have become very intrusive recently.  I just tried an experiment and used my antivirus programme to block everything from http://uk.ard.yahoo.com*

 

It works Smiley Happy

 

At least until I open another email and then the ad comes back.  Smiley Mad

 

Now isn't an unwanted bit of code that infiltrates its way onto your computer and does things you don't want called a virus?

 

If you happen to try repeating this, post again if anything odd happens over the next 30 minutes!  Tried it twice now and the same odd thing happened on both occasions

 

 

"To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it."
-- Michel de Montaigne, Essays, 1559

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Message 17 of 28

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odd indeed!

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GeneralDisquiet
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Message 18 of 28

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Did something odd happen to you as well?  Smiley Surprised

 

Give me a clue.

 

If it's the same thing that happened twice here, its time for a word with Dorset Vinney!

"To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it."
-- Michel de Montaigne, Essays, 1559

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erm. no. see other means!

 

I'm doing something wrong. I'll keep trying!

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Dorset_Vinney
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I note you have a problem with intrusive ads while viewing webmail. I am pleased to be able to say that peer to peer support solutions are available for this problem and I think I can solve your issue and answer your questions as we swap tips on ad control.

 

I get no ads on webmail at the moment (are we talking about the right hand column of the webmail page?)

 

I have an MVPS HOSTS file, and I run Firefox 3.6 with addons - ADBlockPlus, RequestPolicy, Ghostery (experimental beta version trying to solve some firefox shutdown problems) set to block all tracking scripts on its list, and NoScript (. For search engine obfuscation I am using TMN firefox addon (which sends out random search requests to make search engine tracking logs useless).

 

I have NO google or yahoo toolbars. Absolutely forbidden on computers in our home.

 

I see no ads at all either at webmail login or when using it to read or send mails.

I have NoScript in webmail set to not allow any scripts to run on the mail page.

RequestPolicy is set to not allow any requests from yahoo.com, but yimg.com is set as an allowed destination (that makes sure the button images on webmail don't disappear)

ghostery is set to block all tracking on its lists - on the webmail page it does not appear to be blocking anything so it doesn't look as if there is any tracking there that ghostery knows about.

I have no specific BTYahoo! additions to my HOSTS file

AdBlockPlus is running with default settings, and enabled - it says it is blocking 2 out of 39 items on the webmail page.

 

I'm running Netalyzr every now and again (in an admin account, with my HOSTS file disabled) and I'm pleased to say it gives BT a clean bill of health at the moment.

 

If I want to know what my browser might be doing behind my back, I run the java console, and also switch on Dephormation firefox addon which has a logging facility and records browser requests etc. for evidential purposes.

 

In Firefox I have my settings to allow javascript (because NoScript looks after most issues).

It is set by default NOT to allow cookies, and then I make individual exceptions for sites that need it - if possible only allowing session cookies but allowing persiistent cookies if I trust the site and can't get by without. Firefox remembers usernames and passwords but I tend not to allow login cookies unless I REALLY trust the site operator.

 

That seems to keep most ads and most scripts and website nasties at bay but I have no illusions that it prevents tracking. I did a "how unique is your browser" test today and got told it was unique to level of one in 181,000 or something - I imagine because I had just downloaded a beta firefox addon, and there were very few other people testing it.

Dorset Vinney - I speak up when I'm worried