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JoeArny
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Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

Hi, my community is crowdfunding an upgrade to Superfast fibre in our area with Openreach, BT be the biggest benefited by this, so would BT be keen to contribute with it? A minimum of 100 families will be able to contract Superfast fibre with you.
Thanks for any support.

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-Richie-
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Re: Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

Have you tried your local council ? most have grants available for this type of thing or they could at least point you in the right direction.

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Keith_Beddoe
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Re: Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

All providers apart from Virgin Media use Openreach, so it would be ant-competitive for BT to promote a company who is part of the BT group. I expect that Ofcom would take a dim view of this.

Openreach would need firm orders from a number of Service Providers, before any upgrade would be planned.

The best plan is to form a neighbourhood group who are customers of different providers, an put a case to Openreach.

 

 

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JoeArny
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Re: Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

Winchburgh is close to Edinburgh so even some people at the Parliament was consulted, but they claimed they could do nothing for us... 😞
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JoeArny
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Re: Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

Service in this area is horrible, Openreach quote the price for the upgrade but no company decided to fund it, so Openreach representative suggested us to grant the funds ourselves as a community partnership.
Now we are funding it with our own pockets and asking for contribution to companies that would somehow benefit from this. BT is maybe the best contender for this since the majority of the neighbourhood is already with them...
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Keith_Beddoe
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Re: Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

Why would BT Retail fund something that could benefit its competitors, as Openreach have to allow all providers access to their network?

You will not find any Service Provider willing to fund Openreach. BT Retail are just a Service Provider.

A local or government grant, plus contributions from all the residents, it the only way forward.

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iniltous
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Re: Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

AFAIK, Comunity funded projects don't pay the entire OR construction costs, but contribute towards the gap between the actual price and what OR would be prepared to 'spend' on a normal commercial upgrade , something like , actual cost to OR to upgrade area , £30K, max OR would spend for the number of homes included in scheme, £20K, the gap is what the CFP would be expected to contribute , 10k,  either 1 wealthy individual paying the lot, or the £10k split between the homes that benefit, or anywhere in between, the CFP would need to be set up in a way that the funding was in place, not just a vague promise to pay from a number of individuals , it would need to be on a proper contractual basis.


BT Consumer are no more likely to contribute , than Sky or TT, infact if Sky or TT were to, they would expect an unfettered opportunity to sign up those customers that benefit from their  investment, something that BT would be criticised for if they tried the same thing , the regulator wouldn't allow a joint venture with OR, if it allowed BT first shot at signing up customers, even if BT have the most customers in the area, what if a Sky customer wanted the faster speed from the upgrade but didn't want to switch , should they be allowed to get the benefit of the upgrade but stay with Sky who didn't contribute ?
So No, it's not really possible that BT Consumer would contribute towards your CFP

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JoeArny
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Re: Would BT be keen to contribute with a community crowdfunding fibre upgrade?

Hi iniltous, no one can or will be prevented to take benefit once the infrastructure is in place. Just for you to have an idea even the households that refused to contribute will be allowed to use it.
Some people at the community are contributing for the benefit of all houses. We are asking for contribution to ALL companies that would take benefit on this too. So I see absolutely no reason why it sounds so unacceptable/absurd for you.
But thank you very much for commenting on this post. 🙂
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