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Message 21 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

i am wondering if the cable  could come from the pole to my garage then to my house.  But they would need a bracket to raise the wire above the apex of the garage.

If they did this the cable would not run along the centre of my drive. 

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Message 22 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

"We'll drill a small hole through the wall to connect the Fibre cable, we may also need to drill a couple of extra holes to safely attach our ladder"

This drilling holes to attach a ladder always puzzles me. To access the place for these holes, presumably they have to use a ladder which of course can't, at that stage, be "safely attached".
So why not skip drilling these holes and just use the ladder to do the optical cable installation?
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Message 23 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

If it’s OH feed ( like the OP’s) OR are going to have to mount a bracket ( perhaps 2?) at height. So the need for a ladder. And they may need to secure the ladder by drilling a hole or two lower down to put an eye bolt in to attach a securing rope to the bottom of the ladder.  If you’ve ever watched the OR engineers climbing a pole they secure a ladder at the bottom by wrapping a rope around the pole. Clearly a house wall doesn’t have a convenient post or pole to secure it too. Hence the other drilling needed.

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Message 24 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

@justjohn1  Well that may indeed be a cost effective solution. But you won’t know until OR turn up and have a look. In general it’s a real pain that you don’t know when OR are coming round to survey the job (if indeed they have done) when this sort of stuff could be sorted beforehand. I had a less than straightforward DIG install a while back. And it would’ve been so much easier if I’d known when they came round for the survey.   But unfortunately it’s a race to get the cheapest offerings for broadband and times money and all that.. 

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Message 25 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

Openreach stopped using the Ladder Tie Off years ago in favour of the Tetra System, which is used at both the Pole and House End.

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Message 26 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

@36ULW  Oh okay, fair enough. So does the Tetra system mean that there’s no longer a need to secure the ladder to the wall or pole. Or just that it’s now a strap system rather than some form tie off? 

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Message 27 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

Tetra is the system to secure the ladder to the wall , it requires fixings installed at a low level  on the wall and the ladder is secured using these fixings , the fixings are removed from the wall once the ladder work is complete 

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Message 28 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

They attach the ladders to the pole using a tensioning strap. 

A rope is secured to the length of the ladder and the Engineer uses a carabiner to attach themselves to said rope so that if they fall off the ladder when climbing it they just dangle there like a Christmas Tree Bauble. 

Once the Engineer gets to the top of the ladder they have to secure their Fall Arrest Lanyard to the Pole before removing the Carabiner.

The system works just the same at the house end but the Tensioning Strap fixes to the wall using a Removal Eyebolt. It doesn’t always have to attach using that though, it can attach to anything that’s secure and well grounded. Like the time I used a pillar that held up the porch or the time I secured it to a Loading Only Sign that was against the wall of a shop front.

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Message 29 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

Thanks both for the detailed info on the tethering. At least I’m aware of the current practise now. There’s always the concern that the hole drilled (if needed) for the ladder doesn’t impact the rendering or whatever too much after it’s made good.  Hopefully the OP @justjohn1 will have a successful install that’ll look neat and tidy. 

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Message 30 of 31

Re: Current telephone cable is DIG grey armour cable , How "should" fibre be supplied?

Depending on the thickness of rendering I didn’t like drilling into it.

For Rendering it’s usually better to drill into the lower brick that’s visible. 

Or just get scaffolding. 

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