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Openreach FTTP cable install... can they only do it underground?
Excuse the badly sketched drawing but it was easier than describing fully. My parents currently have a virgin fibre cable running to the house. It comes from an access point in the pavement, cuts diagonally across the lawn (a few cm underground) and then pops back up in the corner of the lawn and runs along the base of the side fence to the connection box on the side of the house. The second virgin cable then comes from that box, along the front of the house to the other front corner, and then through a hole into the house (which ends up under the stairs, which is where the backs of the phone and power sockets are). It then pokes through an internal wall into the virgin plug point the router plugs into.
They are now moving from virgin to bt/openreach fibre (it's significantly cheaper for the same service), so need a new installation. They obviously want the cable to come in the same place, and the plan is to remove the virgin cable and have the openreach cable come into the house through the existing external drill-hole so we wouldn't need new holes drilled in the front of the house.
However they had the first 'inspection' visit today, and the person seemed to be saying that their 'preferred' approach would be to cut across the lawn and under the driveway, digging up the herringbone-brick driveway bricks in the process.
Which.... seemed like an expensive option, and was surprised that it seemed to be their preferred choice. The guy said that there would be a second inspection with someone who was actually 'in charge' to be done to make the final decisions etc and then a third one for the actual work to be done. We had a text regarding the final install date as like 8 weeks away.
Our concern of course is them digging up the brick driveway and then not restoring it correctly. My parents are stressing over it being done poorly, bricks being broken or replaced incorrectly etc. I guess I can't blame them, driveways are expensive and it's a lot to deal with at their age.
I had thought they'd just run the cable the same way as the existing virgin one, rather than digging up driveways and making trenches. Unless fibre cable is a LOT more expensive than I thought, and a couple extra meters of cable costs more than a day of contractor building work lol.
Unless they have a policy where all cabling needs to be ducted underground. Which makes sense I guess. Figured I would just ask the question, maybe someone here has some insights that will help!
Pink line is the virgin cable run. Blue is roughly what the openreach guy seemed to want to do.
Edit: I'd already checked the bt details page and the house is listed as "Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG partial Direct In Ground" and the guy said the old phone line is armoured cable so there's no existing ducting to use unfortunately. And this street doesn't have poles either.
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Re: Openreach FTTP cable install... can they only do it underground?
The person who did the Step 1 would’ve been an Engineer from either the SD or Complex Division.
They’ll only suggest a new Duct Track. When the Civils Team come out they’ll usually do what is faster and easier for them, ideally digging in soft only, not lifting slabs, digging into concrete etc.
I put in for hundreds of duct tracks over the years and 9 times out of 10 where I said was merely a suggested best route. If the Civils Team found a better way then they went for it, after all, it’s them doing the hard graft, not me. All I ultimately cared about in the end was the cable got from point A to point B where I needed it.
So I wouldn’t worry to much about it, discuss it with the Civils guys when they get there.
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Re: Openreach FTTP cable install... can they only do it underground?
Does the intended feed from Openreach arrive from the left or right hand side as observed from the property looking towards the road ?
If the required entry point is where the VM access is , OR won’t touch the VM service , so their access hole cannot be reused by OR , OR should not interfere with VM property, what’s more should VM be reconsidered to supply service again in the future, leaving the service intact is necessary.
As stated , to a large extent the civils team will do what’s the most appropriate, the ‘best’ place to bring in a duct from the footpath into the garden may be unavailable due to other buried services .
If the FTTP service comes from the RHS , soft surface (lawn) is obviously preferable, cable on fence is not great ( obviously if the fence ever were removed or damaged the cable may suffer) but it’s not absolutely banned either , so that may be the route used .
Any unnecessary excavation in public area (footpath) is going to be avoided if possible , so depending on service coming from the RHS or the LHS of the property will in great part determine the route of the duct to the house wall , starting as close as practicable to the property boundary from the side the newly provided OR FTTP service exists .
FWIW , block paving is much more forgiving than for example , imprinted concrete or resin bonded driveway surfaces as they will have scars if excavated , block paving generally leaves no signs if it’s been taken up and put back down , it won’t be the civils teams first rodeo as far as block pavers.
In essence your parents will discuss what’s acceptable with the civils people, as stated the surveyors comments are a guide , they don’t have X-ray vision , if what’s on offer is ultimately unacceptable, they cancel the order , but as the saying goes , you can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs
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Re: Openreach FTTP cable install... can they only do it underground?
Just to add, the civils team are very good at reinstating block paving whereever it needsto be lifted. It should go back "As is". Shouldn't be a problem.