Hi there genius, I find this hard to believe but for the first time since our earlier exchange I needed to connect to a BT wifi hotspot and once again the phone steadfastly refuses my credentials. I have checked, double-checked and triple-checked I am using the Broadband account and the same login credentials but the phone won't have any of it. I tried re-installing the BT Wifi app and that just says 'no data connection', how come this computer can see the hotspot and the phone can't? Tearing my hair out! I am going to start carrying my tablet everywhere instead of bothering with a phone, I might have some chance of getting online. Any ideas? anything changed at BT since April?