Hi - advice please (from someone who only grasps the basics of in-home telephone systems)
I have a reconditioned rotary phone (as well as a standard modern push button telephone system).
If I connect my rotary phone to my BT master socket - it works perfectly (which proves to me the phone / master socket are compatible).
But when I connect the rotary phone to an extension socket - I can still hear / talk using it, but it does not ring when I have an incoming call (whereas my push button phones do).
I think the problem could be any of the following:
- I have an ADSL filter after my master socket to split the line between phone and internet;
- I have 2 pair cable going from the splitter to the extension socket;
- I have broadband; or,
- I have the push button telephone system
Anyone know what the likely culprit is based on my description? I can continue to eliminate variables one at a time but it is rather unpleasant crawling around in the sub-space of my house and I don't want to replace my 2 pair cable with 3 pair and find the problem persists!
Thank you in advance
David
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can you try disconnecting cable from filter to extension socket and then connect rotary phone to filter and see if that rings
Just plug a filter in the extension socket to re-create the ring wire
More likely pin 3 of the master socket is not connected to pin 3 of the extension socket.
Pins 2 & 5 = A & B legs
Pin 3 = ringing current.
You wouldn't notice this on a Dect or digital phone as neither require pin 3 but the old 700 series phones do
@DavidH4 wrote:
I think the problem could be any of the following:
- I have an ADSL filter after my master socket to split the line between phone and internet;
Not entirely sure what you actually mean by that, how is the filter provided? A filter doesn't 'split' anything in any case, it is just a low pass filter that prevents the broadband signal reaching the the phone.
- I have 2 pair cable going from the splitter to the extension socket;
Do you actually mean 2 pair (4 wires) or 2 wires?
- I have broadband; or,
Irrelevant
- I have the push button telephone system
Irrelevant
Anyone know what the likely culprit is based on my description? I can continue to eliminate variables one at a time but it is rather unpleasant crawling around in the sub-space of my house and I don't want to replace my 2 pair cable with 3 pair and find the problem persists!
If you mean pair, then 2 pair is all that you require as only 3 wires are needed.
Thank you in advance
David
If you do not want to run another wire, then the missing third (ring) wire can be emulated by plugging a microfilter into the extension socket, and then plugging the phone into the "phone" socket on the microfilter.
The microfilter has an internal capacitor which extends a third wire from the existing two wire connection.
Indeed, as posted in message 3 😄
No harm in repeating it, with a bit more of an explanation as to why its needed.
Of course any future move to DV, is not going to support pulse dialling without a convertor.
Thank you everyone for the suggestions.
It was the simple option of adding a microfilter to the extension socket (so plugged into extension socket before the rotary phone). Added bonus I did not need to go back under the floor 🙂