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Barnard
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Message 1 of 10

Phone Kiosk 5g

I have been advised by BT that our local public phone kiosk/box which BT had decided to remove Dec 2019 due to low usage is no longer being removed. Instead it is having 4g and 5g installed.

This public phone kiosk/box has been a blight for the local residents as a magnet for both drugs activity and anti social behaviour for many years and residents are so disappointed it is now being kept.

Can someone explain what exactly is BT doing with current phone kiosks exactly?

Thanks

Margaret

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gg30340
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

This is a BT residential customer to customer forum. Your post does not go to BT. The only BT staff are the forum moderators who do not necessarily read all the posts.

You could try emailing your enquiry here  customer.serv.payphones@bt.com

Keith_Beddoe
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

Barnard
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

Hi Keith

Sorry I should have said BT have told me it is not going to be a Street Hub, 4g and 5g within existing kiosk.

I'm confused, any information gratefully received

Thanks

 

MNroshandel1
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

Hi there,

Removing the kiosk does not get rid of drug dealers or anyone taking drugs, they will still live in your community and find another way to communicate. Other genuine people also use them so removing them isn't going to eliminate such people away from your community.

The 4G/5G mini masts are being installed in BT and New World payphone kiosks because it makes a lot of sense to do so, they are communication hubs with a telephony connection and electricity supply and are used as boosters to prevent black spots of mobile coverage.

If the payphone was being removed due to low usage then I don't think the druggies were using that phone to order from.

Perhaps your local authority and police need to pull their finger out and tackle the antisocial behaviour instead of removing vital facilities in the community as mentioned its just brushing the problem under the rug rather than combating the actual problem.

Starwire
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

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You must live in a lovely area but regardless, I don’t think they’re converting old Phone Type Kiosks.

They’re installing these kind. As you can see, you can’t exactly get inside it.

 

MNroshandel1
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

No they are converting both the old kiosks and yes even the old red ones and BT Street Hubs.

The KX and KX plus kiosks from the 80s and 90s and the old red K6 kiosks have a small part added to the roof which is an antenna, they are red to blend in with the colour of the kiosk.

Vodafone and EE are the clients for this facility. Most kiosks in London are being converted for this which is an important source of revenue to fund the upkeep of the kiosks.

MNroshandel1
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

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 This is what is inside the roof

MNroshandel1
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Message 9 of 10

Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

New World Payphones were also installed with a few small cells and also WiFi hotspots now owned by Virgin WiFi.

Before 2012, New World Payphones was owned by a company called Spectrum Interactive who were early entrants into the WiFi business, in 2012, Arqiva bought Spectrum Interactive and both the WiFi and Payphone business became Arqiva WiFi.

Arqiva installed WiFi hotspot equipment and also small cells for some mobile networks. 

In 2016, Arqiva WiFi sold New World Payphones to Clear Channel advertising company who have replaced some kiosks with nice newer ones. Arqiva sold Arqiva WiFi to Virgin Media Business and the company is now called Virgin WiFi limited.

So this is how Virgin WiFi ended up in New World telephone boxes. Arqiva still owns and maintains the small cells and Clear Channel gets paid for housing both WiFi and Small cells, the Payphones also get a lot of use because unlike BT, New World don't have universal service obligations so they can pick and choose (Cherry pick) sites were they are likely to be used a lot.

So Virgin Media almost ended up inheriting telephone boxes! 

Clear channel is making a fortune out of this business because of the advertising and the added features such as WiFi and small cells

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especially on the newer kiosks it put in because its Interactive, they are open kiosks and very well lit so they deter antisocial behaviour and make cleaning easy.

MNroshandel1
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Re: Phone Kiosk 5g

The new New World kiosks can be seen on their website www.newworldpayphones.co.uk