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Distinguished Sage
Distinguished Sage
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Message 11 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

Because if the cabinet is full, and there is a waiting list, then if people kept their connection, nobody else would be able to get one, unless Openreach increase the capacity.

Plenty of people lose their connection when they change provider, if the cabinet is full.

Its not possible to change provider without a cease and re-provide, as each one would be a new contract anyway.

Things are simpler on an ADSL connection, if both providers use the BT Wholesale network, as the changeover is normally very easy, and there are plenty of ADSL connections anyway.

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Message 12 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

Someone has already posted a link to the wholesale dsl availability checker, but you haven’t posted your result, or even commented on if you have checked, you just repeat apparently what the company’s you are considering using told you, without any evidence that what you are being told is even true, and you have been told at least one falsehood, that ports are reserved for particular ISP’s, that is just wrong.


If there are limited FTTC ports, then obviously either way of dealing with this issue and those potential customers waiting for access , presents problems, the system as is it , move provider, you give up your port, not a problem if spare ports exist ( you get a different one)  , but obviously a waiting list means someone waiting gets your old port and you become the ‘waiter’ , or the other way , would be to move provider and keep the port you are on , and OR reconfigure that port to point at your new providers network , this would mean once you had a port you would never lose it ( unless you left the OR system completely) , and would mean that those waiting are even less likely to get a port, as well as OR having to arrange for the port reconfiguration to be done on a particular date, rather than in advance, there isn’t a perfect system, and it’s almost certain that the current process wasn’t just OR’s decision, but done at the behest of Ofcom and the ISP industry.

If Virgin is available to you, then presumably it’s also available to your neighbours, if you are considering VM as your provider, what makes you think others currently on Openreach’s FTTC network are not also considering VM,( in areas where VM and OR exist VM quite often have over 50% market share) and as FTTC where available is the usual method of provision for customers on OR, (rather than ADSL) then why are you so convinced that their are no spare FTTC  ports and that  will remain the case ?, it only needs one customer like you to move to VM to create a spare slot

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Beginner
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Message 13 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

Thank you all for your comments, which have provided useful information, though they now seem to be drifting away from my original questions about potential problems/costs of giving up then reinstating a land line.  However those questions are  becoming irrelevant.    Having followed Robbie's link to wholesale dsl,  the information there is that fibre is available at the local cabinet.  That led me to look again at the ISPs that for the past week have been telling me that fibre is not available in my area, and every one is now happy to provide it.  I have a choice, without moving away from OR landlines.

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Contributor
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Message 14 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

Thanks, @sped . Would you mind posting the table of results you got?

I think your original question has been fully covered. When you cancel your landline, the line is deactivated & you lose the number, never to get it back. Instead of cancelling it directly you could move it to another landline provider so as to hang on to your number. This witll auto cancel your existing landline contract.

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Beginner
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Message 15 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

Below is the table requested.

 

Exchange WIMBORNE is served by Cabinet 12

 

Featured ProductsDownstream Line Rate(Mbps)Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)Downstream Handback Threshold(Mbps)WBC FTTC Availability DateWBC SOGEA Availability Date  High Low High Low      Featured ProductsDownstream Line Rate(Mbps)Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)Downstream Range(Mbps)WBC FTTP Availability Date
ADSL ProductsDownstream Line Rate(Mbps)Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)Downstream Range(Mbps)Availability Date
Observed SpeedsVDSLOther Offerings


Availability Date
VDSL Range A (Clean)45.2308.35.527.3AvailableAvailable 
VDSL Range B (Impacted)43.927.48.25.122.1AvailableAvailable 
FTTP on Demand33030--Available-- 
WBC ADSL 2+Up to 4--2.5 to 6.5Available-- 
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex MUp to 4Up to 0.52.5 to 6.5Available-- 
ADSL MaxUp to 2--1.5 to 5Available-- 
WBC Fixed Rate2----Available-- 
Fixed Rate2----Available-- 
VDSL Multicast------Available-- 
ADSL Multicast------Available-- 

 

 

 

 

FTTP is not available.

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Contributor
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Message 16 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

Thanks, @sped . You should now be able to get FTTC (VDSL) from any BT-based ISP but don't bother with their uncapped products, such as BT's Super Fibre 2. Their capped 40 Meg, or in the case of BT 55 Meg. product is sufficient for you.

Don't know how reliable this is but

https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=47506&cabinets=15406

Cabinet P12  FTTC Available from 27th September 2013, being expanded by August 2020  Phase 09b 2012-2013  495  ECI  BH21 1TA  

 

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Beginner
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Message 17 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

Robbie, thanks for the succinct summing up, and the link. Expansion shown as 4 months later than Open Reach told me, but now that I understand the connection situation better, no worries.
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Aspiring Expert
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Message 18 of 18

Re: What problems/costs are there in giving up a landline and later wanting to re-connect it?

A VDSL Connection has an associated OGEA Number. You can’t have two OGEA Numbers on one line. Hence why if moving from one VDSL Provider to another you have to be assigned a new Port in the DSLAM.