ADSL Broadband after changeover

[Keith_Beddoe]

In most cases, ADSL is delivered from a port on an MSAN (Multi Service Access Node). These are used to deliver a wide range of services, and form part of the 21cn network, so are unlikely to be de-commissioned.

Its possible that DSLAM`s (Digital-Subscriber-Line-Access-Multiplexer) are still used in some smaller exchanges, that are not part of the 21cn network, but I do not know what the current situation is.

[iniltous]

It’s understandable in a way that someone on a copper pair service may not want the ( relatively small ) upheaval of FTTP , but a change to FTTC from ADSL doesn’t even require an engineer visit , the relevant work is done externally, so the change could be done without even realising it’s been done , the downtime likely to be a few minutes.

As far as DV , when ADSL customers are advised that DV is imminent, all that’s needed is the phone instrument plugging into the SH2 router instead of the wall socket , if a SH2 has never been provided by BT , then one is supplied….obviously the OP is happy to continue with ADSL , but most I would suggest making the  simple change to FTTC  is worth it for the increased speed , and reliability, however if FTTC were available and now FTTC and FTTP are both available, then FTTP becomes the default upgrade path and FTTC effectively not available 

[WSH]

I would have to agree with iniltous.

When I was switched to FTTC/VDSL from ADSL, (many years ago now), no visit to the house was required and the only difference was plugging in a new router.  Speeds immediately went from 8Mb/s to 58Mb/s.

I can also confirm that when I was changed to DV, back in September, the only change was to move the plug for my cordless base station from the master socket on the wall to the socket on the back of the Smart Hub 2 and reboot the Smart Hub.

Both exercises were a piece of cake and well worth the effort.

[HHGTTG]

When i was offered a new package as said before it was based on BT Broadband Fibre 2 so i don't know whether it is FTTC or FTTP. The whole telephone experience was fire.
Ive already implemented my own ebay bought SH2 with msrked WAN port though i turned FTTP Off, in Settings.

[WSH]

Ah, problem there is that they'll detect the SH2 and assume they don't need to send you one.

I believe Fibre 2 is FTTC/VDSL.  Full Fibre 2 is FTTP.

[HHGTTG]

I assume then then that FTTC comes over the existing copper lines to the old master socket and then into the SH2 using the ADSL socket?

When setting up my package earlier this week the pushy sales guy assumed I had the original 12 year old HH3 which I gave up earlier this year and replaced it with my own Smart Hub 6 so assume they were going from their records and not any detective work?

[c64z86]

Yep FTTC comes over the existing copper wires and uses the same master socket. The microfilters are not needed if you have digital voice, so feel free to remove them too when you get switched over to it.

But, with one exception: If you have an old rotary phone, you might want to keep the phone plugged into a microfilter though, as I read that it generates the ring for these older phones.

[chrisjp]

BT's publicity about the change to DV is misleading - maybe deliberately so.
The stuff you get sent in advance of the change to DV talks about "retiring the old obsolete copper network" so that you think they are going to install FTTP when the DV change takes place. That is what I thought also, until I received my SH2 and was told all I had to do on changeover day was take the phone plug out of the wall socket and plug it into the back of the SH2.
This has worked of course, but the "old copper network" has certainly not been retired - it's still providing my broadband service!
Looking at the "service availability" webpages, my local area has no prospect of FTTP for the foreseable future, so I guess the copper network will be in existence for quite a few years yet.

[HHGTTG]

Well, probably only to the end of 2025 I have been told here and then I will have to go FTTC or FTTP. I suppose I'm defined as a stick in the mud who gets anxious over change, well I own up to that. I'm quite happy with my 17Mbps via WiFi as long as the Exchange are willing to provide it. Of course the sales people are pushing me for a new contract all the time where ADSL isn't an option.

[Keith_Beddoe]

No specific reason why ADSL should not continue. For many, that is the only option available due to the fact they are on an EO cable, or too far away for VDSL.

Of course BT would love for you to upgrade, so they can offer Value Added Services like TV.