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Full Fiber - share BT tunnel or ducting oner Paved Drive

Under 1 yr ago BT installed new copper telephone wire to my house, using a plastic conduit I had to argue with them to use under my drive, which I was charged for. To future proof connectivity to my house, without having to DIG UP and keep damaging my drive way. 
And as BT do not currently offer Fiber to the router solution but City Fiber or Virgin do, why can these suppliers NOT share the plastic conduit already that already in place under my drive. As I agreed to having a plastic conduit, to future proof my connection to my own home, without having to dig-up my paved driveway every time, casing more damage?

If BT offer full fiber to the back of the router, I would go with BT and sharing conduct/ tunnel, but they don't and some how BT restrict other access to the conduit/ tunnel, sharing access doesn't necessary mean damaging, interfering with or risk to existing BT products. Its just a shared point between A (house) & B (street). So way cannot I not get City Fiber or Virgin to re-use this plastic tunnel, because they're blaming BT for the situation?

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Re: Full Fiber - share BT tunnel or ducting oner Paved Drive

This has absolutely nothing to do with BT. The duct belongs to Openreach, not BT.

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Re: Full Fiber - share BT tunnel or ducting oner Paved Drive

If your copper cable developed a fault and needed replacement and in replacing the cable they also installed a duct , that duct can be used by other providers if they so wish under a policy called PIA , 


If this duct won’t be used by the alternative networks you name , and they insist on excavating your garden/driveway then that’s a matter for them, BT have nothing to do with it , the fact  they use the name ‘BT’  shows how ignorant they are , if we assume they meant Openreach and not BT , (because you and they don’t know the difference ) , they are still spouting rubbish …..Alt Nets routinely use Openreach ducts via PIA , ( physical infrastructure access ) if they don’t want to use any particular duct, namely the one under your driveway, that’s entirely upto them , but it has nothing to do with BT or Openreach , if they wanted to they coukd use the duct , but if they don’t want to , that’s upto them.

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Re: Full Fiber - share BT tunnel or ducting oner Paved Drive

ok, thanks for the responses, but home truths......here is the issue,   hard to contact originations relying on teams of sub contractor, who unable to see the wood from the trees (I'm including BT, City Fiber & Virgin), I remember when it used to be BT Openreach and it was City Fiber contract who said BT won't let them use it, " when the obvious answer would have been "it is OK to share the same both of plastic pipe or conducted that under my own drive", rather than passing the buck, chaps.....i'll  try OpenReach, who will simply blame BT as they do infrastructure and not operate services!!!

PS it was City fiber contactors who blamed BT, in this instance, 

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Re: Full Fiber - share BT tunnel or ducting oner Paved Drive

CityFibre and VM do use Openreach Duct, or Plastic Conduit as you call it under the PIA, Physical Infrastructure Agreement with OFCOM. Although Openreach weren’t exactly a willing party. 

This is where Openreach are basically forced to allow Alt Nets like CityFibre and VM to rent Duct Space from them.

I have noticed though on quite a few Retro Build Sites in the areas I work CityFibre and VM have used Openreach Duct to get their Cables onto the site but then Built offset Joint Boxes and still put in Toby Boxes to supply service to peoples homes. Unsure why they’ve done that, I guess it’s to save on PIA Rental.

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