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Message 11 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

I thought Zoom used BT WPC over its 21CN network for backhaul, which would indicate to me that the local village exchange is connected to 21CN by somethign a bit faster than a twisted pair and wet string, possibly ready for a BT F.MSAN to be dropped in, but I'm just guessing .. probably incorrectly.

I did manage to check on btwholesale and nothing seems to have chnaged on my line status, but the "public" broadband checker does still say "not yet availabe" instead of "Build planned before Dec 2026" now ...

I was just hopeful that after seeing the BT guy install the 7 way BFT manifold just a few metres away, it wouldn't be long now ...

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Message 12 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

I presume you mean BT WBC ( wholesale broadband connect ) rather than BT WPC , but Zoom consume WBC like Sky and Vodafone and other do ,  VF use many network suppliers , and in areas where there is a choice between BTW and ( for example ) City Fibre , they prefer the alternative, basically WBC is FTTP ISP using Openreach FTTP and WBC to connect to their own backhaul, Zoom provides its own  infrastructure , and nothing to do with Openreach , if they at some point use BTw as ‘transit’ ( and I don’t think they do , there are plenty of competitors offering this ) it has no bearing on OR FTTP availability .

No such thing as a 7 way manifold ( CBT , connector used block terminal ) so probably an 8 way , and that is promising that if you observed an Openreach ( not BT , BT are no involved in the external network ) installing this equipment that availability will ( hopefully ) be shown in the relatively near future, but occasionally plans change , CBT’s etc get fitted , but the service for whatever reason doesn’t follow quickly after that .

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Message 13 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

@rszemeti - Try the Openreach checker too. 

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker 

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Message 14 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

Yes, it is the OpenReach checker you mentioned that has changed from "Build planned before Dec 2026" to "Not Yet Available"

 

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Message 15 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

Ah yes, probably an 8 way manifold,   I only briefly glanced at it while talking to the Opentrench guy.  Rigthio, I'll just have to be patient then.

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Message 16 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

Worked a lot with BFT before Openreach switched to Connectorised Block Terminals and I never saw them use a 7 or 8 Fibre Manifold, I only ever saw 12 Fibre Manifolds. 

When were they building it, I thought Openreach stopped using BFT Manifolds in favour of CBT’s long before I left, taking years.

Even in areas that already had BFT they would extend those builds using CBT’s and not Manifolds.

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Message 17 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

I probably used the wrong term.  Anyway ... there is a "roughly 8 way,  multiport fibre doo-dad in the box 10m away" ...

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Message 18 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

And interestingly, the "Available before Dec 2024" has not changed, but this week the "1800 mbps" has changed to "1600* mbps" ...  and upload from "150" to "115*" which I am hoping means they have actually put a F.MSAN on the other end and these are vaguely tested values, which might indicate it is gettign closer to being available!

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Message 19 of 19

Re: How long for Openreach to update after fibre pulled in?

On the subject of “how long is the string…”, I seem to have the opposite experience.

I saw a guy pulling in fibre in the street about a fortnight ago.  I assumed at the time it was CityFibre or Virgin, both of whom upgraded round here two years ago.  Anyway, two weeks later I get an email from OR telling me FTTP is now ready to order.  (I’ve had a declaration of interest registered for a couple of years).

As various people have said, there’s a lot more to it that just pulling the fibre in, so it takes the ISP’s a bit to catch up, but BT’s site acknowledged it’s available within a week.  BT seem to think I’m daft enough to carry on paying the silly price I’m currently paying, out of contract, for this “free” upgrade, however.  Looking at Sky’s site, Sky still don’t say its available even after a couple of weeks.  (Of course, that could be lack of availability of headend equipment etc.)

Not terribly important to me, as I’m disinclined to move until the spring now anyway but shows how much it varies.

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