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Re: moving to a new property

Hello in my area I have full fibre broadband 

 

The property I'm moving to in GL51PP does not have fibre however the streets GL51PQ does have fibre 

 

It seems this road has been missed off. It currently gets up to 80MB broadband but not anything faster 

 

It has a thing called fttp on demand but it looks costly 

 

It says they have no plans to build but the news says all homes should be fibre by 2027 

 

So does that mean this postcode will have it by 2027 or very unlikely 

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Re: moving to a new property

@Chrisw3290 

"It says they have no plans to build but the news says all homes should be fibre by 2027 "

Where have you seen that?

There is absolutely no way the whole country will have Fibre to the Premises by 2027.

Are you confusing FTTP roll out with the closure of the Public Switched Telephone network, which I think has now been pushed back to early 2027?

 

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https://www.uktech.news/news/full-fibre-broadband-to-reach-almost-all-homes-and-businesses-by-2027-o....

 

So will this street have gig fibre upgrade or will it be left behind as it seems all other streets around it have the gig service but not this one 

 

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https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/telecoms-infrastructure/ofcom-propels-full-fibre-rollo...

 

The exchange itself has the fttp set up aswell as the local cabinet it's the road that's been left out which I find strange as you done all the roads around it and missed this part 

 

Ofcome and news say all home should have access to giga fibre by 2027 with 99 coverage so does this mean this spot will get gig fibre or be left behind 

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The article is based on forecasts by OFCOM that 96% of all premises should be able to get full fibre by some time in 2027.

So given the current total of 32m premises that means that even if the forecast is correct, 1.3m will not have it by that date.

And again, this is just OFCOM hoping that it happens. It all depends on commercial companies rolling out the product and as the build goes on, the costs increase as you get into the hard to do areas. So that will require public subsidies.

So nobody can say for sure what will happen and as the rollout is mostly commercial, the companies will not give you a hard yes/no as it is up to them what to do and when.

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Also there are 130+ companies who have powers to install telecommunications kit in the country e.g. dig up roads, install poles etc, so even if 1 company (Openreach) has no plans for an area, one of the others may.
But again they will not offer up that information in advance as it is a commercial secret.
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Okay can I ask why roads above and next to the property have fibre but this road was missed out is that on purpose or anything there's 32 houses in that postcode so throught it wouldn't be worth missing that strip as the roads around have them 

 

It's seems a bit lazy or pointless missing out one road and than going back to it 

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It’s Openreach , not BT , that decide when and where FTTP is rolled out, BT have no more or less influence on that then any other ISP that uses Openreach infrastructure, like Sky , Talk Talk , Vodafone etc.
If a smallish area appears to have been missed out  when the majority of the surrounding area has been provided with FTTP,  the reason(s) could  be these houses are simply on the wrong side of a PON boundary ( passive optical network ) each PON only covers a certain area /number of properties , so there will be neighbouring addresses that are just the wrong side of a boundary, and the PON those addresses will eventually be served by , hasn’t been built yet…or it could be there are specific problems that make a part of a PON area uneconomical to service so these are put on hold  ( in the short term ) theses missed out areas will be revisited later in the program when funding is available, OR look to get the biggest bang for their buck , so the expensive to serve addresses can be put on the back burner and the focus is on the less expensive to build areas.

FYI , property built in the 1960’s through to the very early 1990’s often was served by buried armoured cables ( called DIG , direct-in ground ) , the lack of ducting or telegraph poles makes these areas very expensive to reengineer for FTTP , so often are missed out ,  if there are  a mix of different age property’s , some built prior to 1960 , served by poles , they could  get FTTP quickly, same as property built after 1990 as they are already ducted…DIG properties generally are left out of the program, or it could even be a number of properties have a blocked duct that may need considerable expense to fix , again they can be excluded on the grounds of being too expensive to service.

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@iniltous 

 

Does it make a difference if the property's on the road are served by over head wires and telegraph poles 

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@iniltous 

So I looked at the property 

 

The road has a lot of telephone poles and over head wires so does that mean it's more easier and cheaper to upgrade to FTTP. The roads served by FTTP has the same setup poles and overhead cables to the houses 

 

It just seems this bit was missed out so does that improve the chances 

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