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HD by default for Sports and Big Sports packages if you have switched to EE broadband

According to an announcement on the EE community forums and when you look up packages with EE the sports and big sports package they now come with the sports channels in HD by default (without the £6 add on), but you need to switch to EE broadband to get it.

https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/TV/Inclusive-HD-with-EE-TV-sport-packages/td-p/1484850

Wonder what will happen with the now entertainment channels with the discovery channel now. 

Strangely enough the discovery channel isn't listed at the moment with available channels in the entertainment package when you look to order it. Don't tell me they are taking that away!!! 

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Re: HD by default for Sports and Big Sports packages if you have switched to EE broadband

Strikes me as an odd thing for them to do. This might be a bit of a reach, but I wonder if it's paving the way for them to offer the Sky Sports channels in UHD / Atmos. Their ordering system can't currently handle anything more than 2 states: Boost (HD)/ No Boost (SD). I suppose they could change those 2 states to HD / UHD? Who knows .... 

The announcement says: "All our TV packages that include TNT Sports or Sky Sports come with HD". So I assume the Now entertainment channels get bumped to HD too, provided you have a Sports sub.

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Not necessarily fair on those with entertainment packages that don't have sports added on though.

Leaves them out in the cold and possibly considering their options at the end of their contracts.

Bit strange that the discovery channel isn't being mentioned when you look at fake ordering as this was a bonus for entertainment and full works customers 

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I wonder how many customers they've lost by not being able to offer Sky's live UHD channels (which are all Sport channels). They lost me. I now contract direct with NowTV.

And this business about directing customers to Sky Stream. That looks like an act of desperation ....  And you can just imagine what the Sky Stream agents script says: "yeah, sure we can sign you up to Sky Stream, and yeah it's UHD !! oh, by the way, how much are you currently paying for your broadband?"

If they're losing sufficient numbers of TV and Broadband customers, they may need to take drastic action. Signing away £6 a month from a whole load of customers must really hurt their bottom line. 

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Maybe at some point they might ditch the entertainment package. Who knows though.

I have EE TV through EE for the pro box and sky stream but for the same price for the HD add for EE, I got whole home and my first puck free for the same price as the add on during black Friday, so win win until my EE contract expires anyway then I have my own decision to make 

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Re: HD by default for Sports and Big Sports packages if you have switched to EE broadband

@Hooba 

If people do what you did, going to Now direct to get UHD Sky Sports, that’s £35 a month off EETV’s bottom line, making £6 pale into insignificance.

I wonder how long it will be before EE and BT ditch the EETV albatross in favour of Sky Stream; there may only be a little kickback to be had from Sky, but the savings from dismantling the whole tottering edifice of EETV must be enormous, to say nothing of freeing up the teams of TMC people vainly trying to shore up Multicast.

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Re: HD by default for Sports and Big Sports packages if you have switched to EE broadband

They’re not going to get rid of TV. 

To be a competitive comms business they have to be able to offer the holy grail of triple play (broadband, telephony, digital TV). 

The sole reason BT started up a Sports channel was to massively bid up the price Sky had to pay for Premier League TV. It certainly wasn’t to make money. By doing that, after spending £billions, but costing Sky £billions more, BT eventually forced Sky allow BT to wholesale Sky’s TV channels. So that BT, just like Sky, could deliver triple play. So - they are not going to walk away from TV.  The battle that BT fought to be able to wholesale Sky channels went on for years and years and years. All the way back in 2009, because Openreach were forced into Local Loop Unbundling, Sky was able to become a telephony and broadband provider in its own right. Alongside their TV service , that was an extinction level event for BT. BT eventually got their way. In effect - they won. 

I can only speak for myself, but I haven’t entertained anyone other than BT/EE for my broadband for very many years - because bundling together my phone, TV, and broadband through a single provider makes economic sense.

Which is why BT / EE sending people SKy’s way for Sky Stream looks utterly desperate. I suspect BT / EE have had people wanting to walk away because BT / EE are only offering HD in a UHD world. One way to keep 2 of the 3 parts (broadband / telephony) is to make it clear to punters that they can keep both with EE whilst still accessing Sky Stream.

It looks from the outside like an unholy mess. 

EDIT: It's not £35 off the EE bottom line. It's also what people are paying for their broadband and phone. People won't just shift their Sky Sports - they'll shift everything else too. At least, that's the risk.