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Message 21 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro


@gomezzwrote:
So in summary users should be aware that the Netflix app checks in (or tries to) when an EETV Box Pro (and presumably all models of EETV box) is connected to the internet.

Should users be worried by this? Probably not
Do other apps on the box do similar? Probably
Should users be worried by that? Probably not

Actually not quite right.

In summary Netflix checks in 1000's of times more then any other app on the EETV Box

Should users be worried by this? Probably not

Do other apps on the box do similar? No

Should users be worried by that? Probably not

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Message 22 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro

In your case it keeps trying to check in but not succeeding because you are blocking its attempts. That is not the usual situation.
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Message 23 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro


@gomezzwrote:
In your case it keeps trying to check in but not succeeding because you are blocking its attempts. That is not the usual situation.

This is an old post anyway, someone else re-kindled it but again that's not my point.

The app has never been used, its not signed in, none of the apps on my EETV Box are signed in or have ever been used apart from Apple TV+ which I tested for someone else the other day, and yet Netflix tries to connect every 20 seconds where no other app does on the box, all the other apps tracking urls are blocked also. But even when in standby Netflix is there trying to call home. Netflix app does not show this behavior on any other platform in my house, just EETV, it seems to go crazy.

Now my point is, if the app is not signed in and has never been opened it seems odd to me that its doing that, but that can be held as an opinion which might not be agreeable. As apps on the EETV box are pre-installed I guess they are always running in some respect.

But I dont care, I thought it more of an interesting thing than anything else.

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Message 24 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro

Most "apps" on the EE TV Box are custom web sites running in a browser. They don't run in the background.
Netflix is actually an app, running at a lower level than all the others, with direct access to the hardware. What they do, and why, is entirely up to them.

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Message 25 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro


@Midnight_Voicewrote:

@naylor2006 

I’m all for ‘further information’ posts, to make this Community as valuable a resource as possible.

The further information I would like to see added to this thread at the moment is whether those repeated calls stop, or drop in frequency, if they are no longer blocked.

I’m just a packrat for this stuff…. 😛


From a sample over the last 90 minutes I am seeing a slight decrease in the amount of requests, the box has remained in standby and there were no other app based requests at all, so it was just Netflix and still I have never used the app.

I think we can put it all to bed now, I dont have a complaint about it nor was a I worried.

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Message 26 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro


@DarrenDevwrote:

Most "apps" on the EE TV Box are custom web sites running in a browser. They don't run in the background.
Netflix is actually an app, running at a lower level than all the others, with direct access to the hardware. What they do, and why, is entirely up to them.


Oh nice, now thats an interesting point.

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Message 27 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro

As gomez says.. However I think its more than just marketing purposes.
To those of us concerned with privacy and not being a perpetual source of data to be harvested in minutia should run their own local (pi.hole/adguard) / recursive DNS server/sink hole and see for yourself what logs.netflix.com (in particular) is *Actively* calling home/tracking devices/generating metadata (amongst other things) all under the umbrella of "Providing a better service.." 

Like I said, the constant calls out to logs.netflox.xom is prob part of their EDA Event Driven Architecture & Observability purposes.? A super paranoid person may suspect NF are even using all EE hubs acting as a proxy / edge for other clients in the final mile or as a side bus for packet streams / bandwidth to other devices (either inside the end users LAN or even out to the MAN *after their CDNs..*)
idk, but wireshark would be the thing to take a peek inside the stream and capture the chatter and get a definitive answer.

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Message 28 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro

Richard Halton, when MD of YouView, actively mused about using the metadata collection of YouView boxes to know which room of your house your children were in.

I don’t think I’ve ever come across anything creeper than that.

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Message 29 of 29

Re: logs.netflix.com contacted every 20 seconds by EETV Box Pro


@Midnight_Voicewrote:

Richard Halton, when MD of YouView, actively mused about using the metadata collection of YouView boxes to know which room of your house your children were in.

I don’t think I’ve ever come across anything creeper than that.


Geee wiz....

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