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Message 21 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

Hi, don't know if you're still there, but I have discovered that when the code comes over landline, if you pick up the phone without saying anything, it cuts out.  But if you say something, the message begins - a long laborious message that ends in telling you to choose "1" to hear the code.

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Message 22 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

This is ridiculous. BT locked one (only one) of my email addresses forcing me to change the password*. Unauthorised access they claimed. It's not the first time, it happens when there is an infestation of spam incoming usually after BT have re-set their spam detection and before they have got around to making it actually work. Luckily that I now could do on-line without the six weeks plus delay (yes, really) to regain access the last time it happened. BUT, as part of the process they insisted on a mobile number to send a passcode which, without warning, then congratulated me for setting up 2FA. Well, I thought, that's not something I wanted but I can live with it for the rare occasions I log-in to access my account profile.

But a few days later what do I find? All of a sudden I'm being asked to receive a passcode to gain access to BT webmail for any and all of my eleven email accounts - yes, every time, one after another...  All with passcodes sent to a mobile number where coverage is poor and signal can take 1-2 minutes to establish and then drop out again at random. Did I ask for this? NO! Do I want it? NO!

So I go to my account to try to turn it off. To log-in I now have to enter a passcode, sent to my mobile. When I get to the section to change 2FA arrangements and click the link the first thing it does is to send me a passcode - to my email. In order to log-in to my email it insists to send me another passcode to my mobile. Then when I retrieve and enter the passcode sent to my email the system then gives me an option to change the mobile number - nothing else - and to do so, yes, you guessed it, it wants to send me a passcode!

I wasn't pre-advised of this 2FA, I didn't ask for it and I don't want it. Am I happy - NO!

So what will happen now when I try to download email I don't know, but I don't do that until I have first accessed it and cleaned it up via web-mail. Will it fail due to 2FA? I don't know and I don't have time to find out right now.

All this hassle on top of trying to renew the broadband (system won't permit on-line) for over two months and eight wasted phone calls (probably around 6 hours on the phone inc. wait time), many broken promises (or were they just fibs to fob me off?), complaints ignored and still zero success. Additionally BT want more money because of their delays and because their figures are more than on-line. Regardless they can't process an order. For an account which has existed since the early days of dial-up. 30+ years?

Now it seems I have to spend more time on the phone to get this 2FA turned off.

Customer service? I don't think so BT, not by a long chalk!

Oh, and I'm a stakeholder for what it's worth, since privatisation... I'm questioning why.

 

* So far changing the password appears to have made no difference - I'm still getting a lot of the same style of spam as I was before they locked the account claiming 'unauthorised access'. I'm not surprised, I've seen the same before.

 

 

 

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Message 23 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

@DISRUPTED 

As you are no doubt aware this is a BT residential customer to customer forum. Your post does not go to BT. 

Lodge a complaint and take it up with BT.

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Message 24 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

@philip55  So you’re very much stuck then. This isn’t a direct link to BT. Effectively, no one here can help you. Your only option, is to keep going back to BT, but as you’ve stated, they’re driving you nuts and they seemingly don’t have a clue. So, what exactly are you going to do?

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Message 25 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

After some phone calls and i tried online chat i seem to have been let in my account without the 2 step for now so i'll see how it goes. I'm not 100% sure but i think the online chat escalated it to let me in as they give me a reference number for my complaint.

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Message 26 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

At time of posting, BT still have not updated their web page. The wheels appear to have stopped turning:

https://www.bt.com/help/security/two-step-authentication#:~:text=Two%2Dfactor%20authentication%20(or...

Perhaps it's just not on the important list of stuff to do 🙄

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Message 27 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

The moderators were previously informed about the out of date webpage and a ticket has been raised to have it updated.

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Message 28 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.


@gg30340wrote:

As you are no doubt aware this is a BT residential customer to customer forum. Your post does not go to BT. 


And what of the moderators then?  Besides, people here should be aware of the surreptitious manner in which 2FA is being implimented behind people's backs.


Lodge a complaint and take it up with BT.


I did, several times. They failed to action it on every occasion. Only once they sent an email saying 'we have closed your complaint' and nothing else.

The complacency is appalling.

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Message 29 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

Not withstanding that when BT make any changes that the changes should work correctly the BTMail system is owned and operated by BT and they clearly set out in their Terms and Conditions section 21, which you have agreed to when you started using the system, that they can make changes to the service at any time for various reasons which includes security changes.

Email terms and conditions

In any event using BTMail/MyBT or indeed any BT product is not compulsory and you are free to stop using it at any time or move to a new ISP. 

What I can say is that moaning and ranting on this forum will not make any difference other than possibly making you feel better because you have let off steam. Perhaps as a "stakeholder" you should raise everything you have posted about at the next Stakeholder Meeting or write a complaint to the CEO. 

 

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Message 30 of 40

Re: Is two-step authentication now mandatory? No option to switch it off.

Maybe BT should let the moaners remove 2FA but also sign a waiver then that the lower security is there choice & BT are not liable for anything, might stop the moans on here