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I'm not against the actual move to Digital Voice as I see the need for it and that it makes sense as we get better voice quality and other benefits.

What I'm not happy about is that they say it doesn't impact what you have today and what you pay today will be what you pay after the change as in my case, given the details I can see at the moment, I will lose out as I pay a premium for the broadband part that they offered as a contract and I agreed to on the basis of that offer to stay with them.

I checked earlier today and I can recontract the broadband with no voice for a saving of £6 so even on this I will still be out of pocket as the voice element is usually £3-£5 for pay as you go and then more for the all inclusive: so where is the parity in anything that I am being changed to or offered...

I realise I may be in some sort of edge case scenario but that is not my fault but BT's for not ensuring that that the Digital Voice change doesn't cover my contract type.

Now I know I could call and perhaps get a better deal, or not, but that would lock me in another long term contract and again that is not in the spirit of fairness or indeed how the Digital Voice change is marketed so why should I give BT my custom for another long term when they seem to repeatably break their part of the contract but have held me to it on occasions with threats of financial impacts, hardly seems fair does it.

I have been a customer for many decades but I'm now questioning that loyalty. 

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@chamber_boy 

I had this communication this week but mine is a forced upgrade to FTTP and Digital Voice that is happening throughout the country. See my link to this post https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Fibre-Broadband-and-DV-again-and-acceptance/td-p/2436...

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Perhaps you can post the entire BT communication you received (redacting any personal information ) that supposedly gives you no choice in taking FTTP , by linking DV to a FTTP installation ( FTTP isn’t necessary to enable a migration to DV ) 

I’m curious how that will work in cases where FTTP isn’t ’wanted’ , not least in the case of renters that can’t give permission for work on a building they don’t own ,( with any new service the customer is required to get the necessary permission, but these are existing customers ) even something as relatively trivial as new wall block could  violate  the terms if their rental agreement , let alone excavation where no duct exists in an underground service area. 

I suspect there will be a way to refuse the FTTP proposal while still being migrated to DV , but without seeing the actual letter it’s impossible to judge .

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@iniltous

II thought that fibre BB was necessary to receive DV usind SH2 via the green socket on the back of it. How can DV come over my existing ADSL system? This is really confusing as we are all told that there's a Fibre rollout throughout the country which will presumably carry DV. The PSTN via copper lines is being phased out isn't it by Jan 2027?

Im confused now. How could DV come by my soon to be obsolete coppers wires? 

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@iniltous

Here's the first email from BT. 

 
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We're upgrading your service

Hello,

Openreach is upgrading your service to Full Fibre Broadband at no extra cost. You'll also move to a Digital Voice home phone service.

This is part of a wider digital broadband switchover happening across the UK.

You'll find all the details about your appointment below.

What is Digital Voice?

Digital Voice is our new home phone service that uses your broadband to make and receive calls. It's a big upgrade to keep everyone connected now and in the future. You'll keep your current phone number, and your contract and broadband plan won't change. The main difference is you'll need to dial the area code for all calls.

Find out more about moving to Digital Voice.

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Important - some healthcare devices or medical pendants won't work with Digital Voice
If you have any of these devices, such as something you'd press for help in an emergency, please call us on 0330 1234 150. You'll also need to speak to your equipment provider to check if your device will work when you switch to Digital Voice.


If you have a linked burglar alarm
Please check with your provider that this will still work with Digital Voice.

If there's a power cut
If this happens, you won't be able to make calls, including calls to 999. This is because Digital Voice works by using your broadband, which needs power. The same would happen today if you had a cordless phone plugged into a power socket.

We recommend keeping a fully charged mobile phone handy for emergencies. If you don't have one, are in an area with no mobile signal, or have any additional needs, please call us on 0330 1234 150.

What is Full Fibre?

Full Fibre, also known as FTTP (fibre to the premises), is built on the UK's most reliable broadband technology. It goes up to 25x faster than our standard fibre. There's no copper cable, it's fibre all the way to your home.

Your appointment

Openreach will send you either an email or a text message with more information on your appointment, and you'll have the option to accept, change, or decline it.

Is your hub in an inconvenient location?

With Digital Voice your phone connects to your hub instead of the old wall socket.

If your hub's not near your phone, you can order a free adapter that turns any power socket into an extender.

You can order an adapter online, or text ADAPTER to 61998, and we'll send you one.

Thanks,
BT Customer Support
Any questions? We're here to help.
 
 
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Oh, DV will run quite happily over copper.  I'm still on FTTC/VDSL and was moved to DV two years ago, before OR FTTP was available here.  It's just that, where possible, they want to do both jobs at the same time.

To be honest, I'm not sure if DV will run over ADSL but I suspect it will.  Certainly, the use of copper wires is not an issue.

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I have no idea why folks think FTTP is essential for DV.

DV is just another IP stream, no different to accessing a website. If you have broadband of whatever flavour you can have DV.

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As stated , DV works on all BT broadband, ADSL, VDSL (FTTC) or FTTP, the SH2 is supplied irrespective of the underlying network with a phone socket available so all BT broadband customers can access DV  , those that don’t have a SH2 get one as part of the migration to DV .

FWIW , the letter does offer a refusal , although it’s hardly prominently shown , I appreciate that BT and  OR want customers off copper and into FTTP where it’s available, hence the implication that taking FTTP at the same time is compulsory, but the FTTP part isn’t , however apart from the example of ‘renter’  I gave , I can’t think why anyone would be vehemently against upgrading, its inevitable in the long run .

Your appointment
Openreach will send you either an email or a text message with more information on your appointment, and you'll have the option to accept, change, or decline it.

TBH , I’m a little surprised that knowing  DV works on any BT broadband was unknown to @HHGTTG   given their participation in this forum , the Openreach products are SoGEA and SoADSL  , that’s broadband without PSTN telephone, SoADSL pretty self explanatory and SoGEA being FTTC , once converted to these products should telephony be needed it has to be IP telephony, in BT’s case that’s BT DV .

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@iniltous

DSo I should now phone BT and cancel the Fibre upgrade component and just ask for the. DV changeover to be carried out on the 14th July knowing that my ADSL BB will be available way beyond Jan, 2027? 

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