Issues with changing to FTTP

[Daedalus2000]

My current FTTC landline has a drop-wire from a pole on the far side of the road, through the branches of an intervening tree, and terminates in a JB high up under the gutter (same situation with my neighbour). There is then a 4-core cable down the wall and into the master socket, but this will become redundant with FTTP.  Given there there is no underground ducting in or near my property, would it be fair to assume that the new FTTP cable will come also as a drop-wire from the pole, or are such things done differently now?

If the new cable can follow the same general route as the old one, then I can see a solution where the new FTTP JB is located in roughly the same position under the gutter, the cable goes through the wall into the adjacent room, and then down a few feet in one corner to where the ONT can be sited close to a power socket. I can then run a long Ethernet cable - which hopefully Openreach will supply? - with relative ease across to the router location. A temporary hook-up would enable the system to be tested and I could then tidy the cables away in slower time.

[michaelh4]

There have been four FTTP installations in my road in the last 3 months (including mine). All have been performed by the same Openreach engineer.

[Kodikid]

Good to know

[imjolly]

@Daedalus2000 

the fibre cable will normally follow the existing copper cable to the guttering but it will then run down the wall to the CSP where the the external cable is connected to the internal cable and then it is possible for cable to run back up wall and enter into room you describe.  you need to talk to installer

[Daedalus2000]

The location of the router and the power requirement for the ONT (and space for the BBU which BT have confirmed will be sent out) mean that the best and easiest location IMHO for the ONT is upstairs, so really all rather pointless to go all the way down and then back up again. Less work for the installer too IMHO so hopefully he'll agree 🙂

[licquorice]

You can't splice fibre by balancing the splicing machine at the top of a ladder hence the CSP needs to be at ground level.

[iniltous]

As stated the CSP usually is sited at a low level , primarily for safety, so although it may seem pointless running a cable down from the eaves and then running another cable back up to the first floor , it’s the normal method , that’s if you require the ONT on the first floor , ground floor is much more common for the ONT location.

There is the possibility of an internal CSP (the block where the external fibre cable is spliced to the internal fibre cable )  , but part of the reason the CSP being  external sited is it provides a point at which testing can take place without access being needed inside the property , an internal CSP obviously negates that …in reality it’s entirely likely the installation engineer won’t have an internal CSP to hand anyway .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XDl0-KkPy8

[Daedalus2000]

Ah.....I was not aware that there was going to be any splicing involved. I've been accustomed to terminating ends in connectors that were then butted together in enclosures - but then, I did mostly indoor work in (so called) 'clean' environments, so there was less risk of contamination etc. 

A compromise might be to put the JB up under the roof of the porch (where there is currently one for the 4-core) but then it would still mean working off a step-up or similar, so probably not good. You can see now why I like pre-installation visits 🙂 

[iniltous]

You can always run your own Ethernet cable/connection from the likely agreeable (with the engineer ) ONT position to where you would prefer the router to be located , the ONT and router are generally co-located simply because of the short Ethernet cable supplied , but if you supply your own Ethernet cabling , and more importantly you install it , then you can have the ONT and router in different locations.

[licquorice]

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