ONT location - no power plugs nearby

[eugeniod1995]

Hi, I just moved into my new flat and realised that there are no power plugs where I thought they would install the ONT. The CSP is in a cupboard in the hallway of the building, which is adjacent to a cupboard inside my flat, where there is the BT master socket, an Hyperoptic socket, the fuse box, and some numbered RJ45 phone sockets which have its correspondent ones in each room of the flat.

I was planning on having the ONT installed in the cupboard, but realised that there are no power outlets in the cupboard.

The nearest power outlet is on the other side of the corridor, and next to it there are also 2 numbered phone sockets. Do you think the Openreach engineer would run the fibre cable through the conduit that connects the numbered phone sockets? Not sure is the bends would be ok for the fibre cable though. 

 

 

 

[36ULW]

Bit confused by the wording of your Post as I think it implies you have an ONT Installed, although I don’t see one in the photos.

Or are you just assuming they’d install it by the existing NTE when you do get one installed?

If there isn’t one then they’d just run the cabling to where it’s needed anyway.

Is that CAT5e Cabling actually in a conduit behind the plaster board, can you see if it you take the front of the socket off?

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[NigelB72]

They ran our fibre into pretty much the same area as our existing cable entry point but we have lots of power sockets around that area. If the logical entry point brings it into your cupboard, you'll just need to run an extension lead around from the power point to the cupboard. 

[eugeniod1995]

I don’t have the ONT yet, and yes I assumed they would install it next to the NTE, but there are no power outlets nearby.

Ideally they could install it where the power sockets are (on the other side of the hallway), running the fibre through the existing conduit, but not sure if the engineers would do it.

[eugeniod1995]

I wouldn’t be able to run en extension lead, it would either have to cross the hallway, or run around the doors needing around 10m of cabling. It would be easier to install a power outlet in the cupboard, but I would need to get an electrician before the Openreach engineer, which I see unlikely.

[Paul608085]

@eugeniod1995 

"It would be easier to install a power outlet in the cupboard, but I would need to get an electrician before the Openreach engineer, which I see unlikely."

If your electrician is anything like mine, he was fully booked up two months ahead when we wanted some work done recently!

Could you temporarily provide a power extension into the cupboard so that Openreach can install and test your service, then when the electrician can fit a proper power socket, move the ONT over to that and remove the extension cable?

Could the extension cable be protected with a mat, to mitigate the trip hazard?

***EDIT***

I am referring here to a rubber mat - not a textile one, which could be a fire hazard.

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[eugeniod1995]

I hope I would find an electrician quickly, I believe that installing a power plug would take less than 30 minutes? In the cupboard there is the fuse box and a light switch, not sure where it would be best to take the power from.

That could be an idea, next time I’m in the flat I’ll put a router in the cupboard with an extension lead to see if the door blocks the WiFi signal too much, even though without connection I’m not sure how it’s best to test it. I have an old TP-Link router which I could use to do the test.

[countrypaul]

Have you considered running the ONT via POE (power over Ethernet)?  I have not tried it, but it would involve using a POE Injector at one of the remote ends of your numbered connections and a POE splitter at the ONT end to provide the power to the ONT.  If you are intending to put the router also in the cupboard you could also run the router via POE (getting a suitable plug for the router is not easy) probably from another connection. 

POE injectors and splitters are available from a number of sources including the big river.

[eugeniod1995]

That sounds like a good idea, never thought about that. And I could place the router just next to the power outlet.

I would need to find a splitter suitable for the ONT, any recommendations?

[countrypaul]

I don't have FTTP, and as I said I have not used the solution I proposed but some have if you use a web search.

I believe the ONT uses  12v  2A DC psu supplied with a 2.1 x 5.5mm jack. A simple web search shows a large number of sources of injectors and splitters. You need to make sure any you select are compatible with gigabit ethernet. You can use either a poe injector or a poe switch as the power supply, but given you will be connecting to your router an injector would be simpler and probably cheaper. Many places seem to sell a kit with both the injector and splitter, I would ensure buying from somewhere you can easily return to if for some reason it doesn't work.