full fibre set up

[mjs-warlord]

I am currently on fibre to cabinet and recently got an email to say i can now have full fibre to my home.
I have seen photos of what is fitted to both out of a home and what is used inside ,  as much as i would like full fibre i am not sure what wall i would choose for the cable to be fed into my home because my pc set up is midway between 2 rooms.

Will my phone line be somehow connected to the fibre box or will it be left separate , the reason i need to ask this is because although i am in a bungalow we have a dormer loft conversion and the phone line master socket is under what is now the bedroom floor and if i needed to get to it i would have to  rip floor boards up.

[pddco]

Once you’ve got full fibre (FTTP) your existing copper landline / phone line becomes redundant. Your phone - or whatever was plugged into the phone socket on the wall -  such as the base station for your cordless phones -  will now plug into the back of the hub.

Your phone will then be served by  BT’s Digital Voice (DV) service.

Your Hub will be connected using a standard Ethernet cable to the internal “Modem” or more correctly the Optical Network Termination (ONT) box that’s usually fixed on the wall behind the external fibre termination / splicing point. 

It may help to search this forum for people who have had specific needs for the siting of the ONT and possibly the external termination point to get a bit more info and background on what may be possible in your situation.

[mjs-warlord]

So if i am on the right track the ONT box is what is sent to me when i agree to be signed up to full fibre , and my hub connects to that.

2 things immediately spring to mind .... i would have to move my hub so that it is near the outside wall because my hub is currently  at the far end of a room extension and i wont be able to take an ethernet cable the full length of the room.

I would then have to make my main pc wi-fi which is not a problem , bt would also have to give me a new hub as well as the one i have does not have a phone socket.

One thing that is holding me back is that i keep getting different versions of what is done in my home , i recently had a chat with a guy who was fixing the new fibre cables to the telephone poles  and when his buddy came looking for him he told me a different version of what would happen  ??????

[rbz5416]

https://www.openreach.com/help-and-support/full-fibre-broadband-installation-checklist

[iniltous]

The ONT is not sent to you , it’s supplied and fitted by the installer, if your hub is already a compatible SH2 then you don’t need a different router .

The installer provides a cable from the CBT , that’s at a pole top or underground join box , to your property wall ( overhead in overhead areas , underground in underground areas ) a CSP ( small block ) is fitted where the external cable from the CBT  ‘hits’ the property wall, a second cable is then ran from the CSP block to where you want the ONT to be fitted , obviously somewhere along this route the cable needs to get from outside to inside the property through a hole in the wall the installer will make …..the installer will discuss the appropriate location for the ONT with you in advance, if where you want it to be is impractical or would take too long to install , the installer may refuse the location you want the ONT to be ….but generally a mutually agreeable location for the ONT is decided upon .

You router connects to the ONT

[Anonymous]

@mjs-warlord 

"the phone line master socket is under what is now the bedroom floor and if i needed to get to it i would have to rip floor boards up."

Out of interest why was the master socket blocked in like this in the first place?

The master socket is the Openreach demarcation point, and in the event of a line fault they would need to access it to test.

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[mjs-warlord]

What is now the upstairs bedroom floor used to be the onboarded  loft i did not know the builder had not moved the location of the master socket until i saw a marker pen drawing on the new floor boards showing where it is.

This led to an awkward moment as the builder is my wife's cousin

[iniltous]

The existing master socket is irrelevant with FTTP , it’s redundant once FTTP is installed, there is no reason for the ONT to be anywhere near the copper pair master socket unless you want it there.

The video on the previous link pretty much shows the installation process , any customer requests as to how and where cabling is provided and the location of the ONT will be considered and done as requested , provided they are reasonable requests 

[mjs-warlord]

This is an update to my post and am wondering if this will give me the full 800mb that i am getting from the exchange to my home. Because i am wi-fi from hub to all devices i only average 350 mb per second.

TP-Link TL-PA4010P KIT AV600 Passthrough Powerline Adapter, 1 Port Powerline Wifi Extender, Ethernet...

I thing puzzled me ... on SOME youtube videos they say plug directly into wall socket but others dont mention it. Would the outer plug socket on the device be able to handle a surge protector with all my pc gear plugged into it.

[WSH]

Fibre line comes into your home and connects to the ONT (Optical Network Terminal).

As has been said, the old phone line/master socket is completely irrelevant and the ONT does not need to be even remotely in the same location.  However, it does have to be in a practical location as fibre does not bend as tightly as the old copper cable and the ONT needs power, so it has to be within 1.5m of a power socket, (or you will need an extension lead.  It could be surge protected, although the domestic grade stuff tends to be a bit slow to clamp anyway to be useful).  The installer also has to be able to do it in a sensible time, as they are on the clock.

The router connects to the ONT via cat 5e or cat 6 ethernet cable.  Theoretically, this can carry a signal up to 100m, so you could have a 100m between the ONT and the router and another 100m between the router and your computer.  (Forget Wi-Fi and powerline.  They have always been a poor second best and always will be.  Put cables in.  You’ll not regret it).

(One final point.  Are you already on Digital Voice?  While they are very keen to do the move to Digital Voice (DV) at the same time as the move to FTTP, the two are actually separate issues and DV will run quite happily over copper, so it does not necessarily need to be done at the same time.  If DV is not available, (unlikely), you may stll need the phone line for the phone).

And another, final point...the fibre is carrying light, not electricity, so surge protection for that is irrelevant.