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Message 11 of 17

Re: My Email host is blocked by BT FF but not by EE 4G

Nice thought, but very remote mountain location, our Fibre was buried in conduit for about a kilometre only to us! Paid for by Openreach... so in that sense it seems churlish to complain about anything. Everything has worked perfectly since installation until this weird fault that nobody takes responsibility for. My main frustration is that when no normal fault shows, Tech support refuse to escalate. 

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Message 12 of 17

Re: My Email host is blocked by BT FF but not by EE 4G

So I'm just bouncing this again, because I'm sure there's a Networking Guru hiding out there who can figure out where this fault lies, how to fix it, and — most importantly — how to get it in front of the right BT team.

In simple terms, I'm paying two companies for two parts of one service: Ecohosting to host my email, and BT to provide the Internet connection by which I access it. Obviously those two networks have to interact for the service to work, and I'd like to think both sides would want to help establish where that interaction is failing.

Ecohosting have certainly tried. They've checked their firewall, checked the relevant IPs, whitelisted both of my BT public IPs, carried out further testing, and escalated the issue to their infrastructure team. Though they're taking their time..m

BT, so far, have essentially told me that there is no fault because their standard broadband tests show that my broadband is working. That is true — but it doesn't explain why this particular destination is unreachable.

The evidence is now quite specific:

• 91.238.161.174 is the server hosting my email and cPanel.
• It works perfectly from my phone over EE 4G.
• From the same Mac over BT, connections to .174 are immediately refused.
• From that same BT connection, the adjacent addresses .173 and .175 connect successfully.
• Changing my BT public IP from 81.152.17.174 to 217.42.97.128 made no difference.
• DNS and BT Web Protect have both been ruled out.

So this isn't really a question of whether "my broadband works". It does.

The question is: where, between the BT network and 91.238.161.174, is the connection being refused?

Ecohosting are investigating from their side. BT Consumer Resolutions have had my complaint since last week but I have yet to receive a response.

Is there anyone here with the network expertise — or knowledge of how to reach the appropriate BT network team — who can look at this as a destination-specific connectivity problem rather than simply a broadband fault?

HELP!

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Message 13 of 17

Re: My Email host is blocked by BT FF but not by EE 4G

Where does it fail if you do tracert to 91.238.161.174

I can reach it ok

Tracing route to cp161174.hpdns.net [91.238.161.174]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 12 ms 3 ms hub.home.arpa [192.168.1.254]
2 12 ms 12 ms 14 ms 172.16.12.3
3 * 16 ms 17 ms 62.172.102.137
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 16 ms * 14 ms core6-hu0-0-0-35.faraday.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201.245]
6 14 ms 14 ms 19 ms 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net [166.49.209.194]
7 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms lon-tel-01gw.voxility.net [195.66.226.180]
8 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms lon-tel-01c.voxility.net [185.5.172.6]
9 17 ms 16 ms 17 ms 5.254.1.34
10 32 ms 17 ms 17 ms cp161174.hpdns.net [91.238.161.174]

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Message 14 of 17

Re: My Email host is blocked by BT FF but not by EE 4G

That's very useful, thanks. It shows that 91.238.161.174 is certainly reachable from another BT connection, so the problem isn't a general BT-to-Ecohosting routing failure.

My connection is behaving differently, however. I'm done for today, but tomorrow I'll repeat the traceroute from my Ethernet-connected Mac over my current BT connection (public IP 217.42.97.128) and post the result.

The particularly interesting evidence so far is that, from my connection:

91.238.161.173:443 → connects

91.238.161.174:443 → immediately refused

91.238.161.175:443 → connects

and .174 works immediately when I switch the same Mac to EE 4G.

So your traceroute may give us another useful comparison with mine.

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Message 15 of 17

Re: My Email host is blocked by BT FF but not by EE 4G

I guess as a temporary workaround to save tethering your phone, you could just use a VPN to connect.

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Message 16 of 17

Re: My Email host is blocked by BT FF but not by EE 4G

I really appreciate your input, but I have unlimited data with EE and my phone is always with me so tethering is easier than a VPN. I'm not really looking for another workaround.
What I'm trying to establish is why my normal BT connection cannot reach 91.238.161.174 when another BT customer's connection apparently can, and why my connection can reach the immediately adjacent .173 and .175 addresses but gets an immediate refusal from .174.
A VPN might well bypass whatever is causing that, but it wouldn't tell me where the underlying fault lies — and I'd rather get that fixed than add another layer to my everyday internet connection.
If anyone can interpret the difference between your successful BT traceroute and mine, that would be extremely useful. Signing off now, but thanks again and I'll post test results in the morn.

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Message 17 of 17

Re: My Email host is blocked by BT FF but not by EE 4G

Morning! I think Ecohosting have finally got it to the right team, so I'm running various Terminal tests for them. They are also happy to host me on a different server if we can't find / fix it. So I'll post back later if it's resolved. Meantime, big thanks for engaging.

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