Fibre to home and Digital Voice

[gg30340]

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@straightwave wrote:
 The downsides of this is more DC power (for the HH2) and more cost to me forced by BT? thanks..

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BT's Digital Voice is NOT being forced on you. You can choose to use it or not. If you do decide to use it you must use their equipment in order for it to work. If you do not like the idea of that then don't choose it!

If the annual cost of using the SM2 is going to be a burden on you I would suggest that you look around for a different Internet provider which supplies a VOIP service or a stand alone VOIP service to see what that will cost you annually.

[straightwave]

Thanks for reply. Well if I may you do not convince on power consumption and I'd like to see evidence regarding the security issues and why SIP / etc is not a goer to be persuaded. There's tonnes of complaints about power on the forum. I read the HH2 power is ~10Watts, 90 kwH per year ~ £22+/yr added cost to us. More if we want battery backup. Multiply by all number of customers in similar boat - how green is your valley? :0). Because of BT / Openreach policy not to use proprietary standard? Regards..

[Keith_Beddoe]

All providers, not just BT, have to use VOIP now, or not provide a phone service at all, and rely on people to use a third party VOIP service.

[gg30340]

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@straightwave wrote:
Thanks for reply. Well if I may you do not convince on power consumption and I'd like to see evidence regarding the security issues and why SIP / etc is not a goer to be persuaded. There's tonnes of complaints about power on the forum. I read the HH2 power is ~10Watts, 90 kwH per year ~ £22+/yr added cost to us. More if we want battery backup. Multiply by all number of customers in similar boat - how green is your valley? :0). Because of BT / Openreach policy not to use proprietary standard? Regards..

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Well don't choose it !!!!

[iniltous]

I’m guessing you are just being argumentative around power consumption, I dare say the SH2 you don’t want to use is pretty similar in its power requirements to your own existing router , want BTDV , use the SH2 , and put your router in a draw or cupboard, the power consumption will be the same , want to keep your preferred router and have BTDV , then you are choosing to do so , there is no compulsion to take BTDV , so the extra yearly expense of both routers connected together is your choice , if the extra power consumption is so onerous, and your preferred VoIP is a public access system, port the phone number to your choice of VoIP provider, and put the SH2 in a draw or cupboard, pretty simple really .

[TimCurtis]

@straightwave 

I'll just say that from a technical point of view using the SH2 for DV and your modem/router for servicing your home requirements should be pretty straightforward.

I did just that using my Asus DSL-AC68U sometime ago without any issues.

[gg30340]

@TimCurtis 

I take it it did not make you bankrupt having to use the SH2 as well as your Asus.

[straightwave]

BT is withdrawing analogue phone, so to maintain that level of service I am required to take some action, right?

Cause  - effect. 

Any DV option will require some new set up, the costs to me are at least my time needed to sort this out (days now), not helped by lack of info from BT (qv) before I opened this ticket. Further equipment will add more cost to me for power and new equipment too.

But anyways, thanks all for your rather rapid responses, I now have the tech facts to move forward and by all means close the ticket. 

Intended as constructive feedback - if you have a back channel to the BT teams visiting our towns, if they had told me that BT DV is on a proprietary rather than an open system, it would have saved me time. I explained carefully to them that I had a Draytek VOIP router and they agreed that if it had phone sockets (it does) it was an option to use it with BT. 

Regards 

[licquorice]

Had you read the FAQ, you would have realised it is proprietary from the outset.

[WSH]

@straightwave   Re: your diagram.  It's a LAN port on the Home Hub to the WAN port on the Draytek.  There is a bit more setup required as well.  If you search for it, I've provided details of how to do it on here several times before.

As others have said, the DV has to go through the Home Hub as it is proprietary, even though still based on SIP.

And just for the record.  Full Fibre and DV are two separate issues.  DV will run quite happily over copper.