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Master Socket Identification

There are several BT extensions in the house I bought (built in 2000). I want to remove them as the BT line is no longer in the house and we are also redecorating so it seems like a good time to get rid of obsolete unsightly kit.

Before I do this I want to check that one of them is not the master socket.

Where the BT cables are located on the external wall of the property (photo below), one cable enters the house but there is not a socket on the internal side of that wall. There is a socket on the other side of that room, however it does not appear to be the master socket as there is no test socket when you unscrew the face plate.

From that external cable point, an extension cable runs off, around the front of the house and enters the lounge on exactly the far side of the house.  It is the cable on the top right of the BT cable point. This looks like its just an extension cable. However, on unscrewing the face plate of the related socket (2 photos below), there appears to be a  test socket inside. What confuses me is if this is the master socket, how come it was run off an extension around the side of the house, not well secured, loosely covered with earth etc.

Or could there be another master socket I should be looking for and where might it be? There are no other obvious sockets in the hall or any other room, upstairs or downstairs.

Moving on from identifying the master socket - as copper wire is being phased out, is there any option to remove all of this internal kit once an for all?

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Re: Master Socket Identification

The socket behind the grey capping and cover 101a was almost certainly originally the master , perhaps it wasn’t in the most convenient place for a previous occupant so either officially or a DIY effort the master was relocated to the end of the extension cable shown in the image …..there appears to be another cable coming out if the duct , is this an optical cable to a CSP somewhere on the house wall ? , if it is (and it’s Openreach ) there is no real value in keeping any copper pair socket ….if you want to retain the copper master socket the ‘new’ position is the one to keep unless you re-established the original master socket , then you can recover the external copper cable etc .

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Re: Master Socket Identification

Thanks, that makes sense.

The new black cable is fibre optic but it is a different provider to OpenReach.

Does that mean I have to keep the copper, am I allowed to disconnect the copper?

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Strictly speaking you shouldn’t be touching it , but ultimately no one is going to be checking  , the potential issue is , you use an Alt Net , if  you moved out and the next occupant wanted to use an Openreach based copper service provider, you disconnecting and removing the sockets etc will make that problematic for them , or possibly even yourself , should the Alt Net go out of business, or you decide to leave them , if OR FTTP is available (even though you don’t use it ) or when OR FTTP becomes available, then the copper pair cables become redundant anyway 

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Re: Master Socket Identification

Thanks for your help

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