Hubs

[Jamie13]

I have an issue with my ping, and I believe it’s because the BT hub is at the front of the house and my room is at the back of the house. I was wondering if you can have another BT hub brung into the house to be put in my room?

[naylor2006]

Broadly speaking if you are talking about latency over WIFI over distance, then yes this will diminish immediately for being on WIFI and not a wire and then will the worse the signal gets. Latency will always be best over a cable.

You could use MESH or Powerlines to get a better connection at the back of the house, BT will probably sign you up to Complete WIFI sending an extra 'repeater' disc for a monthly fee which will take the original WIFI and push it further, but it wont solve latency once and for all, only a hard wire will do that.

[Jamie13]

Hi mate, Thanks for the reply, I do already have a repeater disk in my room and have a Ethernet cable plugged from it into my pc but still have a latency issue. Which is why I think bringing another hub into the house might fix my latency issue, what do you think?

[licquorice]

You can't have 2 Hubs on one broadband connection.

The Ethernet connection from your disc to PC is irrelevant, the weak link is the WiFi from the Hub to the disc.

[naylor2006]

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@Jamie13wrote:

Hi mate, Thanks for the reply, I do already have a repeater disk in my room and have a Ethernet cable plugged from it into my pc but still have a latency issue. Which is why I think bringing another hub into the house might fix my latency issue, what do you think?

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Ultimately you could try a better MESH system, with 3 Access Points, and have one in the middle before yours at the end, latency will diminish but perhaps at a lower level more desirable. You may be able to utilise powerlines, so you have one by your hub and then one with you where you can plug your PC into, then the existing electrical cabling in your house will be used to piggy back your data connection. Mileage will vary however, when I messed around with powerlines I found it useless, latency was far worse than WIFI and I got packet loss entirely, but I live in an old house. Some homes it will be an entirely useful solution.

The only real solution is a cable all the way though from the hub to the PC, that was you'll have around 1ms latency between you and the hub and only your external connection which you cannot control will effect the rest.

[Crimliar]

I love some of the uninformed nonsense we see on this forum.  The difference in latency (measured in 1000ths of a second) between a connection close to the router and one significantly further away is minimal - the connection speed can drop significantly, the latency by almost nothing.  Adding a mesh unit, or an AP is likely to increase the latency by a couple of milliseconds, not reduce it.

Anyone who doesn't believe me - try it for yourself!

[naylor2006]

I think given the OP's original post we cannot tell exactly what his issue is...he speaks, "I have an issue with my ping"...we do not know how bad his ping is or what he is using his connection for. He goes on to mention, "I do already have a repeater disk in my room and have a Ethernet cable plugged from it into my pc but still have a latency issue"

At this point we dont know if hes getting ping spikes, some loss or whatever, or for that matter what the repeater disc is and how good it is. We know that his hub is beaming WIFI to his repeater disc which then has a connection to his PC via ethernet.

Some online games require a spot on ping, and a consistent one at that, a ping that is 7ms and then 50ms then 25ms will greatly effect the experience of playing certain games, Counter Strike for example, on the other hand its not as essential in EAFC. A ping of 20ms in Counter Strike is great, a ping of 50ms above will have an effect, especially those who are playing with HRR monitors and FPS up and over 200. I have many competitive hours in that game and I can assure you, it matters.

When I gave my uninformed nonsense it was based on some wider assumptions about gaming in general, the people who game care about latency alot, so I suspect he is gaming

Latency does literally diminish over distance by an amount (which may not effect you) but my original reply was get a cable, it will be better than WIFI fundamentally. I am not uninformed or wrong in anyway there, he could be 10 metres away from his hub or 20, we dont know what materials are between either or interference.

Once I found out he had this repeater disc, which we dont know what that is yet....but what we do know is that he is having 'latency issue' as he describes it still whilst using it. So if the signal getting to that disc is so poor from the hub causing spikes or loss or a vastly inconsistent ping....then actually accepting a more consistent drop in latency for a more consistently stable ping for gaming is worth it, hence putting in a better Mesh with a 'repeater' somewhere in the middle, therefore stabilising the signal.

To quote myself in reply to his 'repeater disc'.

Ultimately you could try a better MESH system, with 3 Access Points, and have one in the middle before yours at the end, latency will diminish but perhaps at a lower level more desirable.

I mentioned latency will diminish, by that I mean get worse but the MESH may perform better than what he has now hopefully fixing whatever specific issue he has.

Honestly people like you @Crimliar are the reason why some communities dont grow with new ideas and knowledge, you clearly are an expert (Ive seen others posts by you) and people who want to help within a support community may be put off whilst post police come along and take a dump on someone trying to help, that person may feel nervous about contributing again. You dont know my credentials or me personally, but I am not uninformed and to tarnish that to me whilst also expanding to other members here phrasing, "I love some of the uninformed nonsense we see on this forum" says more about you. If you feel the need to correct something its entirely possible to do it without being rude.

With that, ive seen enough of this sort of thing, I'm not going to post or participate here anymore.

[Crimliar]

I said to try it and see - don't take my word for it, test it!  Also, APs, and Mesh systems (I have Mesh extenders in use) add latency and often introduce spikes, they rarely remove them.

I do have a serious issue with the number of threads that lead to the suggestion of creating unnecessarily expensive Frankenstein networks, which don't even cure the issues that are being experienced.