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Message 11 of 19

Re: IP6

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Message 12 of 19

Re: IP6

So can you reach https://loopsofzen.uk

Probably wise to mung your addresses

 

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Message 13 of 19

Re: IP6

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Using DHCP this is how my Win11 device network is configured (with IP6 enabled). This config does not allow gethelp.exe to connect to MS. Disabling IP6 (on the PC) does.

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Message 14 of 19

Re: IP6

IPv6 doesn't use DHCP, its a whole different mechanism.

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Message 15 of 19

Re: IP6

The addresses on the Win11 PC match the addresses in the router and I didn't put them there so it got them automatically from the router using whatever it uses.

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Message 16 of 19

Re: IP6

You haven't answered if you can access loops of zen

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Message 17 of 19

Re: IP6

I can 🙂

But still can't access MS Gethelp.exe using IP6.

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Message 18 of 19

Re: IP6

Gethelp.exe is a local executable file and doesn't depend on IPv4 or IPv6.

I've been using native IPv6 without issue since joining BT and have had no issues using the stateless mode on my third party router.  Through DynV6 DDNS I even have a couple of device that I can make directly routable - when I choose to do so!  That third party router is lacking a bit when it comes to stateful mode though.


I only learn by making mistakes and owning up to them - boy do I learn a lot!
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Message 19 of 19

Re: IP6

Thank you, Crimliar but oh dear! Opinion is divided then!

MS think that gethelp.exe (whilst it executes locally on one's machine) needs to communicate with their servers to do its work. Without IP4 or IP6 connectivity further down the network stack (at the transport layer perhaps) enabling communication back and forth to the application layer, gethelp.exe returns the error page I'm experiencing saying it "can't access the app".

I thought it must be a bit like MSEdge or Outlook which, undeniably, execute locally but are not fully functional without the underlying network stack routing IP packets correctly and complain when they don't get the expected response to their comms attempts.

Certainly, MS's explanation seems to me to make sense and accounts for the behaviour I see on my Win11 device but they could be wrong and, as Crimliar implies, gethelp.exe doesn't actually need real-time access to their servers to do its work. My disabling IP6 causing it to work is just a co-incidence (or the influence of a evil spirit possessing my machine 😀).

Trying to resolve this dichotomy drove me, reluctantly, to various AI apps. They all seem to agree (or are subject to the same hallucination). The gist of their opinions is that gethelp.exe needs to communicate with MS servers or it returns an error (the same one I get) and BT have not finished rolling out IP6 across their infrastructure. There are, according to the AIs, various UK geographic areas currently unable to fully route IP6. It turns out I live in one of them. Who knew! AI's universal recommendation is to disable IP6 and use IP4. Which is exactly what seems to work for me.

 

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