Convert BT line to ethernet for fttp install?

[Mikert]

Yes thanks. There is a route planned outside that will be used if plan A doesn't work.

I'm not overconfident loft for ONT will happen, but fingers crossed.

[pddco]

@Mikert  Just something else to think about. Having the ONT next to the Hub (downstairs)  or at least easily accessible , will make it very easy to see the status lights should you have issues with your broadband service.. And, if you’re continuing with a landline phone number, you could use a single backup battery unit if you so wished, to power both the ONT and the hub. May not be needed though I suppose if you’ve got a good mobile signal and/or ditching the landline. 

[Mikert]

So after work this morning, I have fitted both ethernet faceplates. The loft back box was actually OK as the faceplates are pretty shallow.

I have cut a patch Cat5e cable in half and used 2 strands to connect, and keep my internet going till install in 10 days.

I also paid ~£6 for a network checker, and all good.

If I can persuade installer to push a few extra metres so it can reach landing under loft hatch, it's just a case of plugging in the NTO upstairs. There's a vertcal board there ready to fix it to along with double electric socket.

Just hope it wasn't a waste of a few hours

I live in hope, Thank you 😊

[WSH]

"...and used 2 strands to connect..."

I may have picked you up wrong, but ethernet will needs all 8 wires.

[Mikert]

Yes, all 8 connected to ethernet faceplates, and checked all connected good.

But both have a patch Cat5e cable plugged into them, with 2 strands of those connected to main incoming BT copper cable in loft, and other connected to BT box.

[iniltous]

You still haven’t answered the question , what cable do you want the installer to ‘push a few extra metres so it can reach landing under loft hatch’ ?, although you appreciate now that it’s unlikely the tech will enter the loft I’m not sure you realise what the installer will do and how they will leave the installation , but it will be with the  ONT fitted (secure) on the wall near a power outlet or electrical extension lead (outside the loft ) , and the optical cable from the CSP cut to correct length , and also  fixed  to the wall , that cable plugged into the ONT and the router connected to the ONT  , so where is this extra cable ?, no extra cable can be left that you can then ‘uncoil’ and run  into the loft yourself (presumably with you refitting the ONT in the loft after the installer has gone ) , if it’s the Ethernet cable to the router you want a few extra metres to reach into the loft , that’s  your concern (if you don’t use the short cable that comes with the ONT ) .

[Mikert]

"what cable do you want the installer to ‘push a few extra metres so it can reach landing under loft hatch’"

Happy to be corrected, but as I understand, there's a CSP on wall outside. There's an optical cable coming into the building to connect to an ONT, and the ONT is connected to the router with an RJ45 patch lead.

The cable I'm talking about is optical cable, CSP to ONT. With ONT in loft, (hopefuly) next to mains sockets, and ethernet wallplate, located at the hatch opening.

The tech will have no reason to enter the loft, unless he wants to pop his head in to take a look.

I hear you loud & clear you stating it's not going to happen. But I'll just wait & see now. Nothing to lose.

Thank you again. 😊

[iniltous]

So to clarify, your hope is the installer will pass the optical cable from the CSP with the factory fitted SC/APC plug through a hole directly into the loft space from outside pushing an extra few meters through enabling you to run that optical cable inside the loft space , with you fitting the ONT and plugging the cable into the ONT ?
I’m not saying that’s impossible but very unlikely

[Mikert]

Yes, basically, but the optical can be connected to ONT from the landing if long enough.

Thanks again.

[WSH]

Fibre’s a whole different ballgame to copper.  There’s a much bigger bend radius to take into account, for a start.

Draw weight is a lot lower as well.