FTTP Fibre needed in an outbuilding

[johngibbens]

Hello community, I have FTTP to my house and now need to also have fast broadband in an ancillary building (a studio) too far from the house for wifi to reach (probably just over 100 metres). The fibre cable serving my house passes by the studio (about 10 metres away) on its way up to the house.  So, is it possible to 'splice' the fibre and branch off to the studio without affecting the service to the house and have both locations served by one contract, or, can I set up a separate supply to the studio (it is not its own house)?   I don't mind paying for two supplies, but I do need super fast fibre to both locations. Thanks, John.

[licquorice]

It certainly isn't possible to splice another fibre to serve the outbuilding.

[ptrduffy]

It's not possible to 'splice' as you're suggesting.  The fibre serving your house is part of a Passive Optical Network (PON), and is already spliced multiple times to serve up to 32 (I think) premises.  The PONs are designed ahead of the fibre rollout in an area - your outbuilding will not have been included in the PON design, so I very much doubt you will be able to get FTTP there.

Also, at over 100m away, you are just beyong the range of a wired ethernet connection - although it's possible you maye have luck with that.

[johngibbens]

Thanks ptr, any idea if I am able to get a dedicated supply in there?   As I said, I don't mind paying, but, to be clear, the studio is not its own separate address.  There doesn't seem to be any way online to raise an order in this situation; to have two separate contracts and two independent lines for one 'property' (but 2 buildings).   The answer can't be, 'nothing can be done'....can it?  Thanks

[countrypaul]

You could run your own fibre optic cable from house to studio, the basic cable is around £1/metre ands usually contains several cores. I have no idea on termination costs or if you can buy ready terminated. Ethernet to fibre converters cost around £15 each though some switches support fibre or can have a fibre port added.

[Crimliar]

@countrypaul what you are suggesting won't work.  The ONT is an active device that filters your connection from those of potentially a number of your neighbours.  With a 100m run you are looking at either a long high-quality ethernet cable or a specialist WiFi bridge using directional antennas!

Even if OpenReach used PONs rather then ONTs, you'd still only want the one termination before it would cause problems (and probably get you in trouble) - a single termination to replace a PON can be done exactly as you suggested!

[36ULW]

As said it’s a little more complicated than just Splicing another Fibre on another.

You can have more than one circuit installed but like an ordinary phone line if you wanted a second one you’d have to pay for any and all construction charges to provide you with a second line.

[countrypaul]

@Crimliar The ONT and PON is irrelevant to what I am suggesting which is simply Ethernet over fibre (his own not OR's). You take a ethernet patch from the BT SH2 ethernet port in the house to a Ethernet/fibre converter (or a switch that supports fibre) take you own Fibre from there to the studio into another converter back to Ethernet. I.e 1000Base-T to 1000Base-SX/LX/LH Single/Multimode Fibre. 

The fibre can be up to 10Km iirc and can be easily more than 100m. I had this done between two offices on the same road (contractors managed to break a gas main that was only 8 inches below the surface while digging the trench - but that's another story) nearly 25 years ago.

[ptrduffy]

@countrypaulthat's how I interpreted your post.

@johngibbensSomething like this would allow you to extend your ethernet to a max of 500m.  You would need one in your house and one in your outbuilding, plus the appropriate terminated fibre.  And you'd need to make sure the fibre was run between the two with some protection from damage.

[Crimliar]

Good quality Cat5e or better should be good enough for up to 100m if you go down the cable route.