RFULL FIBRE

[jimmurdoch]

Thank you.  Does BT just set things up and hope for the best?

[licquorice]

BT don't do anything. The install is done by Openreach.

Your internal network is your responsibility not BT's.

Why does the router need to move just because you are moving to Full Fibre?

[WSH]

As people have repeatedly said, no they will not go round with a meter.  Openreach will install an ONT (Optical Network Terminal) on a wall and that is where their responsibility ends.  You connect the BT hub to that.  BT will send a signal to the hub and that is where their responsibility ends.  In fact, they only guarantee the speed to the hub, not beyond.

There are Wi-Fi signal measuring apps you can download to a mobile phone.  (Google them).  When you have one installed, I suggest you position the hub where you think it will have to move to, connect it back to the current phone socket with a long cable and then go round with the mobile phone and measure the signal in each room.

Best place to position any wireless access point is as central as possible and high enough up to miss obstacles like furniture and people.  Avoid putting it near water or metal, (as they absorb the signal), and avoid putting it close to other electronics. 

Theoretically, the signal should go much further than 22m but a lot depends on observing the points above.

[jimmurdoch]

Hi Distinguished Sage,
Many thanks.  The router will need to move  because I can only get the wire to come in to the rear of the house.

[licquorice]

What makes you think the fibre won't enter where the copper currently does?

In any case, the router doesn't need to be where the fibre enters and the ONT is sited, the ONT and router can be up to 100 metres apart connected via Cat5E cable.

[jimmurdoch]

Hi Liquorice,  

The pipe runs underground at present and it looks very 'busy'.
I'll need to study the wee technical bit you offered. 🙂😀

Could WiFi boosters be the answer to all my problems? 😀  Do they work?  I could stick one in each room.
🤔
Once again, thank you very much.

[WSH]

Licquorice makes a good point.  

Unlike the old FTTC and ADSL days the hub does not need to be even remotely close to the ONT.  You can leave it where it is provided you can run some Cat 5e/Cat 6 back to to ONT.

Why do you think the fibre will have to come in at the back of the house?  As I said before, they will almost certainly follow the existing path.

Edit: If by "busy" you mean BT's checker says "Congested duct" I would ignore that.  They put it in as a precautionary note when they have not bothered to do a proper survey.  Mine said the same and the installer told me on the day that the duct was empty.  To quote "You usually have to push it through at some point.  Yours went through straightaway.  Easiest I've ever done."

And, talking of BT's checker, have you looked on here and seen what the installation note at the bottom says?

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL

[jimmurdoch]

Thanks  WSH  I note what you say about 'busy' which is correct.

Are Wi-Fi extenders any good?

Would a router signal cover a distance of 22 metres?

[WSH]

As I said, it should be capable of much more than 22m.  Manufacturers like to quote 300m with clear line of sight.  A lot depends on what is in the way.  Old houses have solid walls, more modern ones have stud and plasterboard, (nowhere near as dense).

BT do Wi-Fi extenders.  I would suggest a "mesh" system off Amazon if you are going down that route though.  I'd try to position the mesh units so they can effectively "see" each other through the doorways rather than the walls.

I'm afraid I've no real experience with these though.  My generation of techie was brought up to believe if you want a real network, you put wires in.  You only use Wi-Fi if you are in, say, a listed building and can't drill holes in the walls.  (Not that that usually stopped us).

[licquorice]

The route the fibre will take is pre-determined, it is not decided on the day, it is dependent upon where the CBT (where the other end of the fibre connects to) is located. It will almost certainly be in the chamber that your current copper connection comes from.

WiFi is not a precise science, it is very dependent on many factors that will be unique to every property.