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Message 11 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

Thanks for the update @bdyer 

I'm pleased the team are looking into it. While it's never great for others to be having issues too, it does, as you say, help to know this when trying to narrow down the cause.

Hopefully they find the cause soon and you are back to normal.

Lesley

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Message 12 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

If near neighbours , so likely to be on the same PON as the OP , are having the same problem , then that changes everything, from looking at the issue as one entirely within the OP’s ‘domain’ , the ONT , the PSU , the house power supply, to suspecting the PON itself, from the headend (OLT) to the splitter node ….as the OP indicates the PON light flashes rather than the LOS (loss of signal) being illuminated suggests a headend issue rather than the physical medium (the optical cable ) , OLT issues really can’t be the problem if every other user on the PON wasn’t also experiencing issues , hence the necessity to establish if multiple users are affected or just one.

I recall a problem posted on here a while ago  , not mentioned previously as the indication was only the OP was experiencing issues , there  was a problem with the SFP for the affected PON at the headend , the OLT trained Openreach tech told the customer ( and  poster on here ) there were a faulty batch of SFP’s fitted at multiple OLT’s , and a program to identify and rectify the issue was being rolled out , it’s possible that the OP is on a PON with an SFP from this batch of potential unreliable SFP’s , if the OP  manages to speak to someone ‘au fiat’ with that issue affecting some head ends ,  (rather than a tech that deals exclusively with the external network who may not necessarily be aware of that problem ) it may be something worth investigating .

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Message 13 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

@36ULW SASAs? I’m sure there’s others like me who appreciate the technical detail in these posts. But sometimes the TLAs throw me..

@iniltous  Oh, and there goes another one.. SFP? 

Thought I was doing alright but just occasionally they trip me up. Thanks. 

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Message 14 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT


@pddcowrote:


@iniltous  Oh, and there goes another one.. SFP? 

Thought I was doing alright but just occasionally they trip me up. Thanks. 


Small Form Factor Pluggable.

It allows various types of interface to  be plugged into a chassis rather than having dedicated sockets. They can be optical interfaces or Ethernet of various speeds and flavours.

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Message 15 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

@iniltous Thank you for the great insight and tech details. I'm supposed to be getting a visit from an Openreach SFI tomorrow. The appointment is booked, but no SMS to confirm. If they're able to come, I'll share this info with them. 

Thanks!

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Message 16 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

FYI ….SASA , splitter array sub assembly, basically the equipment that takes a single input ‘fibre’ and splits it into 32 output fibres ( that’s the basis of passive optical networks, it’s a passive split , no power needed , it’s an optical rather than electronic device ) , and as stated , SFP (small form plugable transceiver ) a device that transmits and receives , it converts optical signals into electrical signals and electrical signals in to optical ones , there is a also transceiver in the ONT but it’s not a SFP as it’s not ‘plugable’ (a separate device) …its  a component built onto/into  the ONT 

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Message 17 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

Hi all, a brief update on this and what I hope is a happy ending!

A 4th engineer came on the 17th Oct and ran all the normal tests, found nothing. No issues with the build. The engineer then opened up the two manhole covers on the street and rerouted my connection into what I think he said was a spare/unused cable. Since then, I've had no dropouts.

I'd love to hear the view from the group how this could have fixed the issue and how it could help others in the future. Of course, this could be a coincidence and the problem was fixed elsewhere on the same day. 

Thanks again for your help. 

 

 

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Message 18 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

In very general terms , anyone with FTTP availability, will only have access to a single PON (it gets complicated if an address  has access to multiple PONs (passive optical networks ) do you know if the tech had to re authenticate your ONT onto a different PON ?.

To maximise efficiency, (if the local geography allows it ) a node will be designed to have 4 splitters within it ,( think of each splitter as a PON , with its own unique ID ) and each splitter designed to have 30 addresses , so to simplify, say you were on a road with 60  houses , numbers 1 to 30 designed to be on splitter A , via multiple CBT’s , and houses 31 to 60 on splitter B  via multiple CBT’s , it’s possible that (for example ) you could use a spare port on a CBT from splitter B for a house numbered 1-30 , but it would mess up the design, potentially leave a an address in the 31 to 60 range short of a port (although there are 32 ports , 30 is a self imposed limit ) , and the duct network would need to have access to both , and the address would have a longer cable route to the CBT than originally designed, but it could be possible , just not desirable ….if the tech did this , they would have to re authenticate your PON from one splitter ID to the other splitter  ID .

If ( and this is more likely ) they simply  connected you to spare port on the same PON , nothing actually changes optically as ports are identical if on the same splitter , what would  change is the ‘mechanical’ connection , the devices in the joint boxes (and up poles for that matter ) are CBT’s , connectorised block terminals , a plug and socket arrangement, if the plug and socket were defective in a way that occasionally the connection failed (that’s possible) it would be weird that the issue presented itself in the way it did ( regularly at around the same time of day ) .

Hopefully this is the fix and it’s not a problem that will return, but the fix (unless the tech did move you to a different splitter ) seems peculiar, and obviously if it were an issue with the PON ( the one you were on ) and that issue wasn’t fixed , you were simply moved away from the faulty PON , which potentially will still be causing issues for those still connected to it ( you said some neighbours were also affected ) 

It’s possible the tech did something else , like changing the fibre from the aggregation node to the splitter , each splitter uses 1 fibre but has 3 allocated , perhaps it was that , although again it’s weird the way the problem manifested itself, dodgy splices or fibres generally work or don’t , they rarely work some of the time and not at other times , with a regular failure at around the same time of day  , what’s more a light level check would usually indicate a poor connection that was barely ‘hanging on’ …but you can have remedies that work that seem to defy logic , hopefully whatever the engineer did fixed your problem and the neighbours problems at the same time .

 

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Message 19 of 19

Re: Flashing PON light on ONT

The flashing PON light usually means a signal loss or authentication issue between your ONT and the exchange. Since it happens at fixed times, it’s likely an upstream fault or scheduled maintenance at the exchange, not your home setup. Ask BT/Openreach to run continuous line monitoring during those hours to catch the signal drop in real time.